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Re: Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.theory, sci.logic
Subject Re: Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation
Date 2024-05-22 22:36 -0400
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On 5/22/24 10:15 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 5/22/2024 6:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/22/24 11:41 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>
>>> typedef int (*ptr)();  // ptr is pointer to int function in C
>>> 00       int H(ptr p, ptr i);
>>> 01       int D(ptr p)
>>> 02       {
>>> 03         int Halt_Status = H(p, p);
>>> 04         if (Halt_Status)
>>> 05           HERE: goto HERE;
>>> 06         return Halt_Status;
>>> 07       }
>>> 08
>>> 09       int main()
>>> 10       {
>>> 11         H(D,D);
>>> 12         return 0;
>>> 13       }
>>>
>>>
>>> I am just trying to get people to understand that for the infinite set
>>> of H/D pairs matching the above template where D is correctly simulated
>>> by pure function H that no D correctly simulated by pure function H can
>>> possibly reach its own line 06 and halt because every D remains stuck in
>>> recursive simulation.
>>
>> But it CAN reach its final state when run or actaully completely and 
>> correctly simulated by a real simulator (and not changed)
>>
>> Your problem is that you definition of "Correct Simulation" and that 
>> of a simulation that actually says something about non-halting are 
>> different, so you can't use yours to reason about the other.
>>
> *You are violating this definition*
> 
> *CORRECT SIMULATION DEFINED*
>    In the above case a simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly
>    emulates at least one of the x86 instructions of D in the order
>    specified by the x86 instructions of D.
> 
>    This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of H in the
>    order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling H(D,D) in
>    recursive simulation.
> 

Nope, YOU are violating the definition of Correct Simulation that 
relates a simulation to machine behavior.

Thus, you can claim all you want about your simulations, but you have 
FOREVER disconnected your concept of simulation from the behavior of the 
machine simulated, so you have no path to talking about "Halting".

Only by LYING and using contradictory definitions at the same time can 
you even try.

You are just proving you don't understand how logic works.

You are just proving that your native tounge is the LIE.

That is why you need to formally and completely define your term, so 
that your errors can be pointed out and deflected BEFORE you get an 
agreement on a statement you can twist.

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Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 19:17 -0500
  Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-27 20:49 -0400
    Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 19:58 -0500
      Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-27 21:39 -0400
        Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 20:54 -0500
          Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-27 22:09 -0400
            Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 21:33 -0500
              Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-27 23:31 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-27 22:45 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 09:13 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 08:45 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 10:00 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 09:15 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 13:34 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 12:55 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:18 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:23 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:42 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:06 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:29 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:43 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 19:07 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 17:28 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 19:01 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 23:07 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 07:25 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:47 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? POE Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 19:19 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:25 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:33 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:44 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:00 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:14 -0400
          Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-04-28 11:30 +0300
            Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 08:06 -0500
              Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 09:14 -0400
  Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-04-28 11:23 +0300
    Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 07:56 -0500
      Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 09:19 -0400
        Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 08:52 -0500
          Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 11:08 -0400
            Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 10:33 -0500
              Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 12:08 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 12:50 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:06 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:19 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 14:39 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:52 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:18 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:36 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:48 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 19:05 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 22:48 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 07:25 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:51 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 19:19 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 01:07 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 07:33 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 10:55 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 18:46 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 22:56 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 07:23 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 11:11 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:10 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 21:59 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:50 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:02 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 00:06 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:13 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 00:17 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 09:11 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message-ID provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 11:24 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message-ID provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 12:49 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message-ID provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 12:20 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message-ID provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 13:40 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 13:54 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 15:15 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 14:24 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 15:42 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 15:18 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 14:28 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 14:57 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 08:06 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 00:17 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-20 10:37 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 10:32 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 07:24 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:17 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 08:14 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 13:17 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-20 11:01 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 10:18 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 13:17 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 14:46 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 19:31 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:28 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-21 06:50 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- Message_ID Provided olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 00:05 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 19:06 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 21:10 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 21:52 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 23:11 -0400
                Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 22:22 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 07:24 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:03 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 21:25 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 22:39 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 00:18 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 08:03 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 09:22 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 21:46 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 21:05 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 23:09 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 22:52 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-22 07:48 -0400
                Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 10:41 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-22 19:01 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-22 21:15 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H remains stuck in recursive simulation Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-22 22:36 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-22 09:52 +0200
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach its own line 06 and halt joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-22 10:26 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-20 13:31 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 10:23 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Message_ID Provided V2 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 22:09 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 23:24 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 22:32 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 07:24 -0400
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 13:01 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H cannot possible reach its own line 06 and halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-20 20:57 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-04-29 16:44 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:20 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-04-30 13:27 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 10:50 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 18:46 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 23:19 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-01 09:42 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 10:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:16 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-05-01 18:44 -0600
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 20:44 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-05-01 20:30 -0600
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:55 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:03 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:54 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 07:23 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 11:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:25 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:12 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:54 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:08 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-01 12:51 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 10:51 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:28 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:16 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:50 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:04 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:48 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? --- olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:17 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:21 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 07:03 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:46 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:48 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:22 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2024-05-03 18:15 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:23 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:27 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-29 14:37 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:56 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-29 15:23 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 10:50 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-29 16:17 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 12:31 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 14:04 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-04-30 10:46 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 10:18 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-04-30 17:37 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 11:10 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-04-30 18:24 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 11:27 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-04-30 19:38 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 13:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-01 11:02 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 10:20 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-02 17:10 +0200
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:42 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-30 15:44 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 11:15 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-04-30 16:46 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 13:24 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-01 10:01 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 10:34 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:31 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:22 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:53 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:07 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 00:13 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-02 12:16 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 09:50 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:48 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:36 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:09 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-04 12:23 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:49 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 13:50 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-05 11:01 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 09:28 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-05 12:55 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 12:38 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-05 14:15 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-06 18:05 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-06 11:02 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-06 22:20 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-03 12:17 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 06:40 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:10 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-04 12:26 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:51 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 12:00 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-05 11:08 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 09:32 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-06 18:08 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-02 09:29 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:05 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:49 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:40 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 23:33 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:49 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:52 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:19 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 14:52 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 18:46 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 23:28 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 07:23 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 11:32 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:36 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 23:56 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:59 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 00:08 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-02 09:39 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 13:35 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:48 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:25 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-03 19:30 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 16:26 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:35 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:29 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-03 12:33 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 06:55 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-03 13:40 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 08:47 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:41 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:38 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-04 12:47 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:56 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 12:07 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-05 11:14 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 09:38 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-05 17:07 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 12:43 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-05 14:20 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-06 18:16 +0300
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-02 09:07 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 12:45 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-02 21:51 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 16:55 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-02 21:48 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:27 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 22:42 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 17:10 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 14:31 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:54 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:23 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 13:58 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:25 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:35 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 15:45 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 14:51 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-28 19:07 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 22:58 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 07:24 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-29 09:43 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-29 19:19 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 00:54 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-04-30 13:22 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 10:45 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-01 13:03 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 11:00 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-02 12:00 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 09:43 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-03 12:43 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 07:13 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-03 14:08 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 09:34 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-03 19:33 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 14:43 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:08 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 23:09 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-03 19:10 +0000
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 16:22 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 08:43 -0400
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 23:20 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 08:53 -0400
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-04 13:10 +0300
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 08:59 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-04 13:51 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-02 15:13 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 07:40 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 10:58 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 18:46 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-04-30 23:11 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 11:06 -0500
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-01 20:41 -0400
                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 22:29 -0500
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                Re: Can D simulated by H terminate normally? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-01 23:09 -0500
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