Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay

From	tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield)
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay
Date	2024-05-07 17:06 +0000
Organization	Software Insight Ltd., Winchester, UK
Message-ID	<v1dn2p$pp8$1@softins.softins.co.uk> (permalink)
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In article <MPG.40a01ed34f6ff8e098970b@paganini.bofh.team>,
Jim the Geordie  <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes I have a Samsung or I wouldn't have asked and yes I have NFC.
> 
> I simply wondered whether the physical action of paying is simpler with 
> one or are they both the same.
> The question arises because I often get asked (by a bloody machine!) to 
> try my fingerprint again when it had already accepted it 5 seconds 
> earlir. Grr.

I noticed this annoying feature which started relatively recently with Google Pay.

After doing some research, I found that Google made an update a couple of
months ago, such that every transaction requires that you have been
biometrically validated within the last few minutes. On my phone (Xiaomi),
Face Unlock is no longer considered sufficient, but fingerprint is. So if I
unlock with face recognition and then try to tap on a pay terminal, it fails,
then asks me for my fingerprint, then tries to pay again, hopefully with
success. Some terminals will need the retailer to reset the transaction before
you can retry.

There are two workarounds that I found:

1. Turn off face unlock, so that I always needed to use fingerprint to unlock.
I tried this for a while, but it lost a lot of convenience in day-to-day use
of the phone.

2. When about to pay for something, open the Google Wallet app, and look above
your card image for a box that says "For your security, you need to verify
that it's you before paying." with a blue link "Verify that it's you". Tap on
the link just before trying to pay, enter your fingerprint, and then tap the
phone on the pay terminal.  The box will disappear and the payment should then
work first time. There is a timeout of two or three minutes (I haven't timed
it, but it's not as short as "5 seconds") before the app will ask again for
you to verify. OK, this is more steps than just unlock and pay, but this is
the procedure I now use, as paying for something is much less frequent than
needing just to unlock my phone, and there is time to open the app while the
retailer is entering the transaction.

Hope this helps
Tony

-- 
Tony Mountifield
Winchester, UK

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Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-04 00:29 +0100
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 21:01 -0700
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-05-04 02:05 -0500
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-04 16:49 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-04 10:22 +0200
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 12:49 -0700
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-05 16:15 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:03 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-04 11:16 +0100
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-04 11:31 +0100
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 13:01 -0700
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2024-05-07 17:06 +0000
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-08 13:26 +0100
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Newyana2 <Newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-05-04 09:31 -0400
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 13:06 -0700
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-05-04 17:23 -0500
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-05 16:17 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-05-08 08:25 -0700
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-08 08:59 -0700
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-05-08 23:19 -0700
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 07:40 -0700
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-05-12 11:21 -0700
              Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 12:00 -0700
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-05-12 11:24 -0700
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-05-04 01:59 -0500
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-04 10:22 +0200
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-04 11:06 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-04 11:20 +0100
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-04 12:31 +0200
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 13:03 -0700
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 13:44 -0700
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-05 14:15 +0000
              Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-05 16:23 +0200
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-05-04 15:51 -0500
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-04 23:54 +0100
              Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-05-04 21:54 -0500
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-04 20:35 -0700
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 10:45 +0100
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-05 13:14 +0100
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 11:00 -0700
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-05-05 09:56 +0100
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-05 11:12 +0200
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 10:37 +0100
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-05 14:13 +0000
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-05-06 15:12 +0100
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-05 10:28 +0100
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 15:50 +0200
              Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:06 +0200
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-05 16:22 +0200
              Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-05-05 11:06 -0700
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-05 20:10 +0200
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-06 08:07 +0200
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-06 09:34 +0200
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2024-05-06 08:35 +0100
                Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:09 +0200
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-05-05 14:33 +0000
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-05 16:24 +0200
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-05-08 15:12 +0300
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-04 16:46 +0200
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-05 15:53 +0200
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-05 16:32 +0200
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-06 10:19 +0200
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 08:51 +0200
  Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-05-06 07:45 -0400
    Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-05-07 09:45 +0200
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-07 16:01 +0200
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-07 17:41 +0200
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-09 16:48 +0200
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-09 17:43 +0200
      Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-05-07 12:00 -0400
        Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-09 17:03 +0200
          Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay bad💽sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-05-10 08:04 -0400
            Re: Samsung Wallet vs Google Pay Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-05-12 09:31 +0200

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