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Re: Windows 10 is randomly removing programs without telling me

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VanguardLH wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you *know* the program was "removed" (uninstalled)? Was it
>>>>> listed in Control Panel (-> Programs -> Programs and Features) and
>>>>> is it no longer listed there? 
>>
>> I know because I just installed the program. It runs in the background
>> with an icon on the Tray. I noticed when I started up the system a
>> couple of days ago that the icon was missing. When I tried to find the
>> program in my Start Menu, it wasn't there. When I looked in "Programs
>> and Features", it was no longer listed as an installed program.
>>
>> I did NOT uninstall the program myself. Period.
> 
> There are installable and portable versions of WizMouse.  The installer
> likely adds the Start menu and desktop shortcuts, and probably defaults
> to showing a systray icon.  For the portable version, you merely copy
> the files (no shortcuts unless you create them).  Could be there is an
> option of whether or not to show a systray icon, especially for the
> portable version (but then it really isn't portable if it gets added as
> a startup program since affects the registry for startup proggies).
> 
> Seems you moved from Windows 7 to 10.  Was that an upgrade from 7 to 10?

No, the option I chose during the move was to do a fresh install from
scratch rather than an upgrade. For some reason though, the process did
create a folder named "Windows.old" which contained the old $Recycle.bin
and complete "Users" folders. Glad it did so, too. And since I had my
data backed up, I was able to preserve that.

> Or did you do a fresh install of Win10, and then install (not copy the
> portable version of) WizMouse?

I did a fresh install.

> Do you run any cleanup tools (e.g., CCleaner, Bleachbit, etc)?

No. I didn't do that. Still haven't done that yet. Still checking out a
few things before I do.

> Where was the install folder for WizMouse?

"C:\Program Files (x86)\WizMouse\WizMouse.exe"

> Is that folder, or its parent, a target for a cleanup tool?

No, it is not.

>>>> Another possibility: Windows Security (formerly Windows Defender) or 
>>>> the Malicious Software Removal Tool might have decided those programs 
>>>> were dangerous and quarantined them.  
>>
>> There was no notification and no mention of it being uninstalled that
>> I was able to find anywhere.
>>
>>>> To check that in Windows Security, open Settings; select
>>>> Update & Security
>>>> Windows Security
>>>> Virus & Threat Protection
>>>> Protection History
>>>> If there are any "This app has been blocked" notations, click on each 
>>>> one in turn. 
> 
> To verify, did you check where Slootweg mentioned in Defender's history?

Yes, I did. There was no mention of the program being removed. In fact,
no mention of it at all.

What I *did* see was a repeated mention of:

"PUABundler:Win32/PhotoScapeBundler

which presumably was installed with PhotoScapeSetup V3.7, despite my
having refused the offer of third party crap during installation.

>>> I downloaded the portable version of WizMouse (so I could see the files
>>> instead of the installer executable).  I submitted wizmouse.exe and
>>> wizmouse.dll to VirusTotal.  The .exe had a couple hits on obscure AVs,
>>> but those are insignificant.  The .dll had no hits.  I don't think
>>> Defender saw wizmouse as malware, but only looking it its logs might
>>> show it decided it was a PUP (Probably Unwanted Program) or PUA
>>> (Potentially Unwanted Application).
>>
>> I was going to explore whether or not MS's implementation of the
>> feature did things like automatically move the background window to
>> the foreground when I scrolled it. I do not want this to happen.
>> However, before I was able to determine if this was the case or not,
>> the program disappeared.
> 
> In Win10 settings, go to Mouse, and check if the option "Scroll inactive
> windows when I hover over them" is enabled.  Scrolling the inactive
> window does not change focus (the inactive window does rise to the top).

Thanks for that. I did that just now and there was a checkmark there.
Doesn't seem to hurt anything to leave Wizmouse installed though, but if
it disappears again I probably won't reinstall it.

> For what you do not want for now (make the scrolled inactive window rise
> to the top), another option might look at is to make a window rise to
> the top just by hovering the mouse over it.  This is called the X-mouse
> function.  See:
> 
> https://winaero.com/enable-xmouse-window-tracking-windows-10/
> 
> Scrolling an inactive window means part of that window could be
> partially obliterated by another window.  The x-mouse function lets you
> pop the target window to the top that you could then scroll.  Hover the
> mouse over the prior window to have it get focus again.  However, if I
> need the scrolled window to be completely visible, I just click on it.

That's also how I prefer to do things.

Thanks again for your help, VanguardLH.

-- 
John C.

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