Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Can't find the DNS Servers
Date	2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
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On Fri 06 Oct 2017 at 01:22:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 05 October 2017 22:56:33 David Wright wrote:

> > One advantage of Powerlines is that they aren't bothered by
> > microwaves which knock out nearby 2GHz devices.
> 
> As in cooking microwaves? If its leaking that badly, have it serviced by 
> someone with a leakage measuring apparatus. Or replace it. That level of 
> leakage is sick bird on this side of the pond. I've checked and 
> rechecked the $100, 1kw model I got from wallies to take on the road 
> when I was out doing consultancy things after I retired for a few years, 
> in my kitchen now and can't find it with that meter. 15+ years old now, 
> I've had to replace some of the interlock microswitches, but 30 seconds 
> for a cuppa is still too hot. Sagging doors are the usual suspects.
> 
> Here we have to leak test our broadcast transmitters and be able to 
> certify they have a leakage field that is less than 5 milliwatts per CC 
> of human flesh exposed or we cannot renew our license.

I think your fears are misplaced and here's why:

5mW/cm² at 5cm is of course the maximum allowed by µwave ovens
once they're sold (1mW at the point of sale). Even at 5m, that
would still be 0.5µW/cm² given an air path, which is what there
is towards both laptop and TV.

The FCC maximum power density for general exposure is about
the same, so that gives an approximate value for the maximum
signal strength at the router and the laptops/rokus when
transmitting. But then we have to add in (or rather subtract)
the effects of (a) the three walls and two floor trusses
along with all their accessories plus the services and ducts
contained in them, which lie between said devices and the
router, (b) the fact that information has to be extracted
from the carrier signal, and (c) the router has to be able
to sort out the competing signals it is receiving from all
the sources in the kitchen.

Another factor that's probably difficult to estimate is
how much the computer devices have attenuated their signal
strengths (on the basis of reasonable reception) when the
µwave suddenly comes on. Do the devices retrain to the new
conditions? How long does that take? Is that why the TV
sometimes comes back? This last is complicated because the
buffering done by a roku varies by channel, programme
material, how far into a programme segment since the last
commercial, etc etc. Plenty of imponderables.

Cheers,
David.

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Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-24 03:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 06:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:00 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-27 11:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 18:40 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-01 22:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2017-10-02 04:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 09:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 12:30 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 12:40 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-03 22:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 01:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 08:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 15:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 19:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 00:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 04:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 05:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-06 07:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-05 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 03:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-06 15:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 08:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:50 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 19:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 20:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 23:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-03 05:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:20 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:30 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 16:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 16:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-30 04:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-30 08:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-30 14:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 17:40 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:20 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 23:40 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 19:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 20:00 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 21:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 23:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 15:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 15:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-09-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-26 16:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 18:00 +0200
                Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 23:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Lck Ras <likcoras@riseup.net> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-27 17:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 00:50 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-27 00:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 05:20 +0200

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