Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Can't find the DNS Servers
Date	2017-10-06 05:00 +0200
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On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 21:56:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 October 2017 20:23:51 David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 18:14:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David Wright wrote:

> > > > As I just posted, I thought the OP was already using a DNS server
> > > > in the Actiontec router. (I don't have that choice.)
> > >
> > > Why not David?
> >
> > Because I have a "plastic" router with a server for DHCP but not DNS.
> >
> > > Get one that has enough memory to be reflashed with
> > > dd-wrt, which will have that feature, and since its .de sourced, not
> > > at all likely to have any back doors for the 3 letter agencies.
> >
> > But why would I buy a wireless router that you don't trust enough
> > to have its wireless turned on?
> >
> A, I don't have it bridged to my network, so the wifi in the buffalo 
> can't get into me, only to the internet but that hasn't stopped an 
> enterprising neighbor from achieving a wpsk login and watching 80 gigs 
> of whatever a month, so the radio remains turned off until one of my 
> boys drives in from Nebraska or Kansas, and wants his smartphone to be 
> able to access his email or whatever.  Thats just common sense. 
> Security, and universal access for critter phones do not seem to play in 
> the same arena. So the ultimate defense is the wifi's power switch.

I don't know what wpsk is. Here I use WPA2-PSK(AES) which seems
to be secure enough. Our household couldn't function without
wifi which is why we bought a wifi router.

> I assume that same neighbor found the radio in an r-pi-3b thats been 
> running one of my cnc'd lathes for about 8 months, got a local address 
> from the dd-wrt dhcpd server, and which a jessie install enabled w/o 
> asking me, but that traffic I can see on the gkrellm tallies, so that 
> got powered down the next day.
> 
> And B,C,D,E & F: security.

I have no idea what that radio would be running. When I typed the
above into google, the one project I looked at was only running
WPA-PSK(TKIP). That's hackable, isn't it?

> > If we spend money here, it'll be for a repeater and/or more
> > homeplug-style devices.
> 
> A wifi repeater?  You can drive an 88,000 lb load of cold swinging beef 
> thru that security hole.  Homeplug-style I assume is some sort of a 
> powerline carried network?, x10 on an overdose of bandwidth steroids?  
> Explain plz if you've the time.

Until recently, our house was serviced by two meters: the new one
which comes underground to the new part, the old one which came
overhead from the easement (where you'd normally expect a back alley)
from a different street. The router sat in the old part (where the
Cox cable comes in from the same pole as the old overhead power),
and we used it from the new part, with very low signal strengths.

Now we've connected the giant cable between the two breaker boxes
and removed the old meter, we can use Powerline 1200s to link the
modem (old part) to router (new part, where we are). Once we've
remodelled the old part and start using it more, we could use
more Powerlines¹ for static things like TV, but will probably
need wifi there as well.

One advantage of Powerlines is that they aren't bothered by
microwaves which knock out nearby 2GHz devices. 5GHz isn't
bothered by the microwaves, but this part of the house seems
rather solidly built and I'm disappointed by the 5GHz performance
here compared with our previous house. By the time we've wrecked
the inside of the old part, the more open layout (the "reception
rooms" in UK parlance) might suit 5GHz a bit better.

¹We'll have to change the whole topology of course, because at the
moment the pair of Powerlines are carrying the (unshareable) WAN
side of the router rather than the LAN side.

Cheers,
David.

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Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-24 03:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 06:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:00 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-27 11:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 18:40 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-01 22:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2017-10-02 04:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 09:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 12:30 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 12:40 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-03 22:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 01:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 08:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 15:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 19:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 00:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 04:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 05:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-06 07:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-05 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 03:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-06 15:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 08:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:50 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 19:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 20:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 23:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-03 05:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:20 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:30 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 16:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 16:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-30 04:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-30 08:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-30 14:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 17:40 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:20 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 23:40 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 19:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 20:00 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 21:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 23:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 15:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 15:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-09-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-26 16:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 18:00 +0200
                Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 23:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Lck Ras <likcoras@riseup.net> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-27 17:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 00:50 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-27 00:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 05:20 +0200

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