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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Run this under Windows and Linux |
| Date | 2023-11-05 21:00 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ui9rsv$bups$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (19 earlier) <20231105092225.760@kylheku.com> <ui8ktg$379h$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <ui8t00$4c78$2@dont-email.me> <ui9nfn$bgou$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <20231105200241.0@kylheku.com> |
On 11/5/2023 8:22 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2023-11-06, Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 05.11.2023 um 21:12 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>>> On 11/5/2023 9:55 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>> Am 05.11.2023 um 18:25 schrieb Kaz Kylheku:
>>>>> On 2023-11-05, Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> google for ... and you'll see a lot of people telling the same
>>>>>> like me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bandwagon Fallacy
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
>>>>
>>>> In most cases experts are right if they agree on a certain fact.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry buddy! A benaphore is a semaphore. ...
>>
>> If you take it like that every mutex is also a binary semaphore.
>
> Umm, nope! Because you can't use a mutex, for instance, in
> signaling "item available" in a producer consumer queue.
>
> You can't have a producer doing nothing but unlock(mutex) to signal that
> it has added an item, and a consumer doing nothing but lock(mutex).
>
> If that happens to work, then we know the mutex is really a semaphore.
>
> If it works, but the documentation says that the behavior is undefined,
> we probably shouldn't do that, but use something that is documented.
>
> No mutex provided in any mainstream operating system supports this
> as a documented case that is required to work.
>
> No implementation of POSIX mutexes, not Windows' CRITICAL_SECTION, not
> Win32 Mutexes, not C++ or ISO C mutexes.
>
> You don't care that something is undefined because you're a professional
> troll, not a professional developer.
>
Check out this bakery algorithm I did wrt a multi producer consumer queue:
https://groups.google.com/g/lock-free/c/acjQ3-89abE/m/a6-Di0GZsyEJ
Pretty nice, and can be used with futexes to get rid of the spins.
<pseudo code, membars aside for a moment>
______________________________________________
struct cell { uint32_t ver; double state; };
uint32_t head = 0;
uint32_t tail = 0;
cell cells[N]; // N must be a power of 2
void init() {
for (uint32_t i = 0; i < N; ++i) cells[i].ver = i;
}
void producer(double state) {
uint32_t ver = XADD(&head, 1);
cell& c = cells[ver & (N - 1)];
while (LOAD(&c.ver) != ver) backoff();
c.state = state;
STORE(&c.ver, ver + 1);
}
double consumer() {
uint32_t ver = XADD(&tail, 1);
cell& c = cells[ver & (N - 1)];
while (LOAD(&c.ver) != ver + 1) backoff();
double state = c.state;
STORE(&c.ver, ver + N);
return state;
}
______________________________________________
Pretty elegant logic...
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Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 08:12 +0100
Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 13:08 -0700
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