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Re: Run this under Windows and Linux

From Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Run this under Windows and Linux
Date 2023-11-06 04:22 +0000
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On 2023-11-06, Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am 05.11.2023 um 21:12 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>> On 11/5/2023 9:55 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Am 05.11.2023 um 18:25 schrieb Kaz Kylheku:
>>>> On 2023-11-05, Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> google for ... and you'll see a lot of people telling the same
>>>>> like me.
>>>>
>>>> Bandwagon Fallacy
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
>>>
>>> In most cases experts are right if they agree on a certain fact.
>>>
>> 
>> Sorry buddy! A benaphore is a semaphore. ...
>
> If you take it like that every mutex is also a binary semaphore.

Umm, nope! Because you can't use a mutex, for instance, in
signaling "item available" in a producer consumer queue.

You can't have a producer doing nothing but unlock(mutex) to signal that
it has added an item, and a consumer doing nothing but lock(mutex).

If that happens to work, then we know the mutex is really a semaphore.

If it works, but the documentation says that the behavior is undefined,
we probably shouldn't do that, but use something that is documented.

No mutex provided in any mainstream operating system supports this
as a documented case that is required to work.

No implementation of POSIX mutexes, not Windows' CRITICAL_SECTION, not
Win32 Mutexes, not C++ or ISO C mutexes.

You don't care that something is undefined because you're a professional
troll, not a professional developer.

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Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 08:12 +0100
  Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 13:08 -0700
    Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 13:25 +0100
      Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2023-10-31 17:37 +0000
      Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 13:59 -0700
        Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 13:00 +0100
          Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 19:24 +0100
            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 19:28 +0100
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-01 19:04 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 13:02 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 13:36 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:13 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 00:19 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:13 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-04 15:53 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 16:58 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 01:05 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-04 16:03 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 11:45 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 11:48 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 19:58 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 12:14 -0700
            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 13:01 -0700
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 07:10 +0100
            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-01 20:50 +0000
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 14:05 -0700
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 14:07 -0700
            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-03 16:04 +0200
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:24 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:14 -0700
          Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 12:58 -0700
            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 07:10 +0100
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-02 14:58 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-02 16:34 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:46 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 13:12 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-03 10:13 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:16 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:33 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:44 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-02 16:02 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 21:05 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-05 04:23 +0000
              Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-02 15:37 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:48 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-02 16:00 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 17:26 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-03 10:15 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-03 14:41 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-03 18:02 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 18:08 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-03 18:52 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-04 17:22 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-04 17:56 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-03 18:51 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:20 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-03 17:28 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 18:30 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-03 18:03 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 19:07 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 19:08 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:26 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-03 18:54 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 20:25 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-03 20:56 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:15 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 17:35 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:19 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:16 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 12:42 -0700
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 12:11 -0800
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 18:49 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-06 02:58 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-03 15:32 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-03 18:05 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-03 16:53 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 18:09 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:25 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:17 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 12:44 -0700
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 05:36 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 12:12 -0800
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 18:53 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 04:44 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 20:10 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 05:16 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:44 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-06 04:22 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 05:37 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 21:01 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 21:00 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 09:36 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 12:11 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 23:52 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-07 11:51 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 05:15 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 21:02 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-05 21:05 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 09:37 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 12:13 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-06 23:53 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-06 23:00 +0000
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-07 05:36 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-07 05:29 +0000
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-07 11:53 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 05:49 +0100
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:52 -0800
                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 05:54 +0100
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                Re: Run this under Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 15:24 -0700
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            Re: Run this under Windows and Linux Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-04 10:19 +0100
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