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Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds

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Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> writes:

> I am still concerned that there will be no reliable way for maintainers
> to check whether a package is reproducible according to policy before
> uploading it to the archive.

Ximin answered this, but I also wanted to note that while having such a
tool would be ideal, we don't have such tools for every aspect of Policy,
and I'm generally comfortable with that.  There are a lot of elements in
building a distribution where we can't proactively test exhaustively and
maintainers have to be reactive.  Obviously, full testing in advance is
best, but we can live with some reactive bug fixing.

There is an infrastructure that will test your package for reproducibility
after upload and let you know if that fails, which is better than some
other aspects of Policy.

Note that, for most developers, this is pretty much equivalent to the
current situation with FTBFS on, say, s390 architectures.  Or even issues
with running under whichever init system is not the one the maintainer
personally uses.  Maintainers generally do not proactively test such
things; they follow best practices, use standard tools, and then
reactively respond to bugs filed or by failures detected by other parts of
the infrastructure when those tools fail for some reason.  And generally
that's fine; lots of proactive testing for the maintainer would often be a
waste of their time.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-12 20:30 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-12 21:00 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2017-08-12 21:00 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 21:30 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 22:10 +0200
    Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 22:30 +0200
      Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-12 22:40 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Johannes Schauer <josch@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 22:50 +0200
    Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 23:10 +0200
      Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-13 00:40 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-13 01:20 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-13 14:30 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-13 15:40 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2017-08-13 17:00 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 20:10 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-15 22:10 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> - 2017-08-16 17:40 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:40 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:30 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:40 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:50 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 21:20 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 23:50 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-17 00:10 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-21 16:30 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 21:40 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: Oppose Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-17 00:00 +0200
  Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 20:00 +0200
    Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 21:00 +0200
      Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 21:20 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-15 22:00 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 23:20 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:40 +0200
        Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 22:10 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-15 22:20 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 23:10 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 23:40 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-16 01:10 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 07:40 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 12:30 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 13:30 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 13:50 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 17:10 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 17:50 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:20 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:40 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:50 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:30 +0200
          Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-15 23:40 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 13:00 +0200
            Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 18:40 +0200
              Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:00 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-16 20:00 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-08-17 02:50 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-08-20 21:30 +0200
                Bug#844431: Revised patch: seeking seconds Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-08-21 02:40 +0200
      Bug#872288: debian-policy: document .buildinfo files Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-15 21:50 +0200

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