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Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

From Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main
Date 2017-12-03 12:10 +0100
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]] "G. Branden Robinson" 

> At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Microcode itself has data loss and local exploits (such
> > as an unprivileged user of an unprivileged VM taking over the host machine),
> > then often comes in one bunch with IME updates that close remote holes.
> 
> And how do we know they aren't opening new ones due to the same factors
> (bad design or bad intent) that led to the originals?

This argument can be applied to any bug fix we or an upstream does, but
that doesn't mean we avoid shipping updated software.

-- 
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are

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Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-30 15:00 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 15:00 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-01 16:30 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2017-12-01 16:40 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-01 17:20 +0100
          Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 17:30 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 17:20 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:10 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-01 18:20 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 18:30 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:10 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-01 20:10 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-12-03 12:10 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-12-03 09:00 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-05 21:50 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-06 05:10 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-06 07:50 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 00:40 +0100
          Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 01:10 +0100
            Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 01:20 +0100
              Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 02:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-07 03:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org> - 2017-12-07 04:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 07:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 07:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 14:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 14:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 14:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 15:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 15:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-12-07 15:50 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 15:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 17:10 +0100
                technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by  stuff in main) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 18:00 +0100
                technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by  stuff in main) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 18:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2017-12-07 18:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 18:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 19:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-07 22:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 23:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 23:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 19:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 20:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 20:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 21:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 14:00 +0100
    Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading  of non-free software by stuff in main) Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net> - 2017-12-06 06:30 +0100
      Re: Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main) Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 02:40 +0100
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