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Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

From Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main
Date 2017-12-01 15:00 +0100
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(Dropping the crossposts.  The stuff I want to reply to is probably
material for -project.)

Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main"):
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I would like to establish a way to prevent this.  (There are even
> > whole Debian derivatives who have as one of their primary goals,
> > preventing this.
> 
> No, those derivatives are damage.  While their hearts are in the right
> place, they cause data loss and security holes by at least making people on
> Intel and AMD machines use known-buggy microcode.

I think it's very rude to call something damage just because you
disagree with someone's political stance with respect to the software
they un on their own computer.

Also, if you care so much about this you should probably worry about
Debian's current default approach to microcode.

> The biggest reason for me

Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
(whoever me is).

Ian.

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Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-30 15:00 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 15:00 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-01 16:30 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2017-12-01 16:40 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-01 17:20 +0100
          Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 17:30 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 17:20 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:10 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-01 18:20 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-01 18:30 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2017-12-01 19:10 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-01 20:10 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-12-03 12:10 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-12-03 09:00 +0100
  Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-05 21:50 +0100
    Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-06 05:10 +0100
      Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-06 07:50 +0100
        Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 00:40 +0100
          Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 01:10 +0100
            Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 01:20 +0100
              Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 02:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-07 03:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org> - 2017-12-07 04:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 07:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 07:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 14:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 14:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 14:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 14:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 15:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 15:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-12-07 15:50 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 15:20 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 17:10 +0100
                technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by  stuff in main) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 18:00 +0100
                technical terms (Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by  stuff in main) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 18:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2017-12-07 18:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 18:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 19:40 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2017-12-07 22:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 23:00 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2017-12-07 23:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 19:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 20:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 20:30 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-12-07 21:10 +0100
                Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-12-07 14:00 +0100
    Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading  of non-free software by stuff in main) Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net> - 2017-12-06 06:30 +0100
      Re: Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main) Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 02:40 +0100
        Re: Automatically marking downloaded files (was Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main) Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-07 15:00 +0100

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