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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.electromag |
| Subject | Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics |
| References | (18 earlier) <55cefce2$0$2918$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> <bIgAx.8237$K21.4434@fx18.iad> <55d21ec0$0$26721$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <DSzAx.124519$Ij7.116868@fx02.iad> <55d4bde9$0$23748$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
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| Organization | TeraNews.com |
| Date | 2015-08-20 02:02 -0400 |
On 08/19/2015 01:33 PM, Jos Bergervoet wrote:
> On 8/18/2015 8:01 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 08/17/2015 01:49 PM, Jos Bergervoet wrote:
>>> On 8/17/2015 10:12 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 08/15/2015 04:48 AM, Jos Bergervoet wrote:
>>>>> On 8/15/2015 9:29 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/14/2015 01:06 PM, Jos Bergervoet wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/13/2015 4:09 PM, Bill Miller wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Einstein reportedly said of QM: "This is epicycles all over again."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm with the Big Guy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crackpot index goes up with 10 points! (see rule 9)
>>>>>>> http://www.physics.smu.edu/scalise/www/misc/crackpot/crindex.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great Crackpot rules, Jos. Of course you probably haven't noticed
>>>>>> that
>>> ...
>>> ...
>>>>> So, all progress in science comes from Archimedes Pu?! Formerly
>>>>> called Ludwig (pronounced "Logwig") Plutonium, as you know..
>>>>
>>>> Archie as a source of new magnificent theories? Um...
>>>>
>>>> The problem is your list of rules places both those with truly creative
>>>> ideas in the same boat with Archie and no way to separate the two.
>>>
>>> Which one of the rules is *not* helpful in separating
>>> truly creative ideas from crackpot behavior?!
>>
>> Since you seem to be a theorist I'm sure this will have no meaning to
>> you, but the ONLY rule helpful in separating Kooks from creators is
>> comparing ideas to careful experiments. And this rule is not in the list.
>
> Please explain. Rule 6 already give crackpot points for
> neglecting results of a widely accepted real experiment.
>
> Did you actually read the rules?! (I know they are not in
> pdf but in html..)
Of course I read them even though your lazy ass made me go look them up
on line. Yes I speak HTML, do you? Didn't think so.
>> Wow! All rules above #10 are valid.
>
> If you actually looked at them: which one is *not* correct?
Already went through this. That noise was the point zipping right over
your head. Remember the GBS quote?
>> ... And especially the number of government agencies
>> agreeing with your views.
>
> Sure, they even pay me to post them here (and to keep an eye
> on terrorists with dangerous crackpot views, of course..)
No doubt. I have little doubt you are paid directly or indirectly by
some level of government. Virtually everyone is these days. And to coin
a phrase one quickly learns not to bite the hand that feeds him.
>> What was that missing rule again?
>
> Don't know about missing ones, but rule 40 should perhaps
> be clarified. Democritos' atomic theory or today's string
> theory don't have *directly* testable predictions, but
> string theorists and Democritos do not deserve crackpot
> points for that, so more clear would be:
> "40 points for claiming one has a revolutionary theory that
> *not even in principle* can give testable predictions."
So in short, these rules aren't rules at all. They just convenient hooks
upon which to hang establishment opinion. The REAL determination of who
is a "kook" is made by YOU and not the rules. The rules are only used to
justify your personal choices. Got it.
> Anyway, *he* would have laughed at it, probably..
> http://www.google.com/search?as_q=laughing+philosopher
Well that sure explains why you are a million yuks! You are just an
atomist!
Speaking of atom, in spite of the total pollution and misrepresentation
of the term "atom" and it's meaning by science, the idea still is
philosophically valid. The idea being the subdivision of nature. Is
nature infinitely sub-dividable? Well the word "infinite" in there
gives one the clue that such an idea is pure fantasy.
So if things are not sub-dividable, then where does it stop. Clearly it
must stop when there is only ONE thing left... like say the aetheron!
People imagined that what might be called "subatomic molecules" were
"atoms", but the fact that they were discovered to be built of several
things squashed that idea, only it didn't, natch, as the name "atom"
stuck even though it was totally wrong. You know, Jos, same as in MANY
physics theories.
Just trying to be cheerful here!
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Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-07-23 19:21 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-07-25 11:31 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-07-25 19:30 -0700
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Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-25 21:02 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-07-25 12:26 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-07-25 19:25 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-25 20:58 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-07-27 17:52 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-07-29 16:59 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-30 13:08 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-30 13:15 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-07-30 15:37 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 01:53 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-02 11:38 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 13:26 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-06 12:14 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-02 13:39 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-02 18:23 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 02:33 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-03 09:04 +0200
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Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 20:39 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-05 08:40 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:59 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-04 08:55 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-01 23:27 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-02 18:20 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-06 12:39 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-06 16:30 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-07 18:02 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-07 18:50 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-09 15:55 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-11 12:11 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-11 21:22 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-11 15:02 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-12 11:29 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics shelfstackerextraordinaire@gmail.com - 2015-08-12 16:20 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-13 10:09 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-14 19:06 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 03:29 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-15 10:48 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:12 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 02:01 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-19 19:33 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 02:02 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-22 09:41 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 15:17 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-24 10:51 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 15:12 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-24 16:35 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-24 14:16 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 21:16 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-25 08:15 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-15 10:47 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-15 19:52 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 03:51 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-17 11:10 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 02:31 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-17 15:49 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-17 20:24 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 07:30 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 02:13 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-17 23:27 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 02:43 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-18 10:20 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-19 19:18 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:46 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-14 19:06 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-06 16:31 -0700
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-08-07 18:05 -0400
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-08-08 13:21 +0200
Re: Unsolved Questions in Physics Timo Nieminen <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-08-01 16:08 -0700
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