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Re: Why do you guys use Linux?

From William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Why do you guys use Linux?
Date 2016-10-11 23:15 +0100
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On 11/10/2016 17:01 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Marek Novotny posted:

> On 2016-10-11, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-10-11 11:39 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-11, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 9:19:19 AM UTC-6, Marek Novotny
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-11, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> // snip
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No company is hiring to produce Linux software other than
>>>>>> RedHat as far as I can tell since there is no money to be
>>>>>> made selling such stuff on the platform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Incorrect. Any distribution that pays any employee is producing
>>>>> software for Linux. If you're hired by Canonical to work on
>>>>> Ubuntu, you're a paid Linux software developer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does intel pay their kernel developers? Of course they do.
>>>>> That's a paid Linux developer. And just look at the top 20
>>>>> contributors. Even Microsoft has paid Linux developers. They
>>>>> too contribute to the Linux kernel. What about the people
>>>>> working on bring the Linux environment to Microsoft windows?
>>>>> They are not Linux software developers? Of course they are.
>>>> 
>>>> The arstechnica.com site recently published an article entitled:
>>>> 
>>>> "Google and Samsung soar into list of top 10 Linux
>>>> contributors." "And Microsoft's days of major Linux contributions
>>>> have come to a halt."
>>>> 
>>>> I knew it was big and getting bigger but this line really stuck
>>>> out to me:
>>>> 
>>>> "Most Linux developers contribute to the kernel as part of their
>>>> employment."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> <http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/google-and-sam
>> sung-soar-into-list-of-top-10-linux-contributors/>
>>>
>>>> 
>>> Yes, I had provided a link from the Linux Foundation some time
>>> back. I do that from time to time. The Linux Foundation publishes a
>>> lot of research in this particular area. Linux jobs are plentiful.
>>> There is so much Linux infrastructure. Just look at Docker. Look at
>>> Ansible, Puppet, Chef, Juju. Look at the volume of work going into
>>> OpenStack and related file systems. How about IBM's push into Linux
>>> with the LinuxOne Main Frame. It's frankly everywhere you look.
>>> Look at the job opportunities from Apple or Pixar. Both want Linux
>>> developers. Apple's push with Swift, which is open source and
>>> released for Linux. Who developed it? Apple. It didn't appear from
>>> thin air. Someone had to develop that for Linux. Microsoft
>>> releasing SQLserver for Linux. I could go on and on.
>>
>> I'm still wondering when any of you will respond to the fact that
>> developers don't make money selling software _on_ the Linux platform.
>> Everyone is so adamant about misreading what I wrote.
>
> You're back to same old broken record again. Clion, the IDE I like to
> use for C is published by jetBrains. Look them up. I pay for that
> software. I Paid for Qoppa PDFStudio Pro. Zimbra has both an open source
> and an enhanced version which is paid for. I used Zimbra for more than a
> year as my mail server and client. Look at all those games in Steam
> catalog. Those are being sold for money and there are more than a
> thousand of them. I am assume you've heard of VMWare? Isn't DropBox
> software as well as a service? I'm paying for it and it runs on my
> Majaro laptop as I speak. That's paid for software on Linux. Remember
> those codecs I mentioned from Fluendo? One Play, the media player, the
> DVD player, the media codecs... All of these are paid for software. Is
> Microsoft not publishing SQLServer for Linux? Autodesk sells Maya for
> rhel do they not? 

As you see, the trouble with trolls like "Silver Slimer" is that they
open their mouths before engaging their brain...or what they call a
brain.

-- 

What IS remarkable, is that a well developed ape has come
to realise that he lives on a planet, circling a sun, in a 
planetary system, within a galaxy, within a universe.
- Professor Michio Kaku - Theoretical Physicist -

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Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 15:40 -0700
  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 18:54 -0400
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:09 -0700
      Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 19:26 -0400
        Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 16:58 -0700
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:10 -0400
        Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 00:08 +0000
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:05 -0600
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:13 -0400
            Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-11 15:33 +0200
              Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-11 15:45 +0200
              Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 09:09 -0500
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 14:12 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 10:27 -0400
              Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 10:24 -0400
              Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 09:24 -0500
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 15:14 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 15:22 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 11:28 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 11:23 -0400
            Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 13:44 +0000
            Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 11:19 -0400
              Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 08:29 -0700
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 11:39 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 11:42 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 11:02 -0500
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 16:09 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-11 23:10 +0100
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 12:01 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 11:29 -0500
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 12:48 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-11 23:13 +0100
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 16:12 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 16:58 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 17:11 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-11 18:00 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 19:05 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 08:15 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 11:53 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-12 20:36 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 12:04 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-12 18:50 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux?? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 15:38 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 15:37 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-12 21:55 +0200
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:15 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:41 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:54 -0700
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 17:19 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-12 23:04 +0100
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 08:27 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 10:12 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-12 15:27 +0100
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 11:56 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 12:07 -0400
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                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-12 07:05 -0500
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 08:25 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 10:11 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 11:54 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 12:04 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 12:15 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 12:27 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 09:56 -0700
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-12 20:09 +0200
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:10 -0700
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 14:53 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 15:50 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:12 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 16:35 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:46 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 17:40 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 17:47 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 20:23 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 20:19 +0000
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-12 16:28 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-12 17:18 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-12 23:25 +0200
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-11 23:15 +0100
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 11:39 -0400
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 09:41 -0700
                Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 16:21 -0400
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          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 23:12 -0700
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 07:09 -0500
            You are a hypocrite and Liar. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-11 12:42 -0600
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:20 -0400
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 00:07 +0000
      Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ebinsageman@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 17:13 -0700
        Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 21:44 -0400
          Re: Why do you guys use Linux? GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:07 -0600
      Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-11 06:50 +0000
  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 00:42 +0000
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:07 -0600
    Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 07:37 -0500
  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 00:17 -0700
  Re: Why do you guys use Linux? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-11 06:54 -0500
  Why do you guys use Linux? Alexander Suvorov <axr.suvorov@yandex.ru> - 2016-10-11 17:50 +0300
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