Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > linux.debian.user > #178838
| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies |
| Date | 2017-03-14 19:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <tkZd8-43W-31@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <tjQYh-4AT-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <tjWr0-8sd-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <tkxJU-Fd-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <tkYTM-3Be-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 05:54:06PM +0000, Glenn English wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote: > > David Christensen wrote: > >> On 03/11/2017 07:10 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> I've vague ideas of what backup pattern(s) I might follow. > >>> I'm looking for reading materials that might trigger "I hadn't thought > >>> of that" moments. > >>> > >>> Suggestions? > > I didn't see anybody talk about incremental backup (the backup > consists of current versions as well as earlier ones -- often earlier > work can replace erroneous or lost current work. Or work you don't > notice is gone for a few days.). There are 2 I know of, and one (and > probably many more) that may do that: Having been there and done that, I can assure you that having a live snapshot system -- rsnapshot or btrfs/zfs native tools -- is more fun and less work for everyone. As a bonus, they can all send snapshots to remote systems or detachable media. > It backs up to a single disk. > It's GUI is kind of cutesy and a bit hard to use. > It's Mac only. > Macs change every few minutes. But I've been using it since it came > out (one of the Leopards), and it's not changed, AFAIK. On Macs, this is the way to go. But! You don't need to back up to a single disk. You can back up to a Linux system running AppleTalk, and those volumes can sit on RAID or ZFS or whatever you want. Recommended. [Amanda] > It can be configured to use many different pieces of medium. > It writes to tape or disk. I don't know if it does cloud. You can pretend a remote server is a set of disks. I wouldn't. > I've been using Amanda with tape for over a decade. No probs. Backing > up and recovering. I've never had to do a bare metal restore, though. > Nor have I ever tried to recover from one of its tarballs. Not much fun. Especially compared to self-service or nearly self-service from snapshots. > I've been on Amanda and tape from the beginning, back in the dark > ages, but I suspect it'd be happy to write to a handful of large(ish) > thumb drives. Another way of getting an incremental backup is to > mirror an entire system every day to a different device from a > collection of removable media (like thumb drives). That'd be a problem > for the likes of Google or Amazon, but might work well for a small > system. Thumb drives are terribly unreliable, but cheapish. Treat them like tapes and never write over them, and assume that some percentage will just die. -dsr-
Back to linux.debian.user | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-11 16:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-11 22:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-13 14:00 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-14 05:00 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-17 11:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 19:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-18 06:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-22 11:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-22 11:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-22 13:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-22 13:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 10:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-23 11:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 13:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-23 04:00 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 10:40 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-23 20:10 +0100
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 14:10 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 23:20 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Nathan Dorfman <ndorf@rtfm.net> - 2017-04-01 11:00 +0200
should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2017-03-31 14:10 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-31 14:20 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-03-31 15:20 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-31 15:30 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 15:30 +0200
Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 15:50 +0200
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 19:00 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-14 19:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2017-03-14 20:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-14 21:40 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-15 13:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-15 14:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2017-03-15 14:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-15 16:40 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-15 16:40 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-15 21:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-03-16 23:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2017-03-14 20:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-03-11 23:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-15 13:30 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-13 15:20 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-14 05:10 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-14 15:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Merlin Büge <toni@bluenox07.de> - 2017-03-14 19:50 +0100
Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies DdB <debianlist@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de> - 2017-03-19 11:40 +0100
csiph-web