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Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

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On Fri 31 Mar 2017 at 14:18:04 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 01:00:45AM +1300, cbannister@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > My understanding is that if there are no services listening on a port then
> > it cannot be accessed.
> > 
> > e.g.
> > 
> > http://serverfault.com/questions/733633/if-no-service-is-listening-on-a-port-can-a-system-still-be-accessed-using-that-p
> > 
> > An I missing something? 

I rather thought cbannister had the correct idea: nothing listening;
therefore no access.
 
> As Dominik said: it's "defense in depth". If your PHP^H^H^H web application
> has some code injection issue, your adversary might well install a C&C
> server listening on that port, and work from there on (exfiltrate data,
> try some privelege escalation, whatever).
> 
> Now there might be other avenues for that, but security is about closing
> the avenue your adversary is going to use next ;-)

If someone unauthorised is on your machine can they not just as well
remove firewall rules?

-- 
Brian.

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  Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-11 22:10 +0100
    Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-13 14:00 +0100
      Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-14 05:00 +0100
        Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-17 11:50 +0100
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            Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-22 11:50 +0100
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                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-22 13:20 +0100
                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-22 13:30 +0100
                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 10:30 +0100
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                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 13:10 +0100
              Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-23 04:00 +0100
                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-03-23 10:40 +0100
                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-03-23 20:10 +0100
        Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 14:10 +0200
          Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re:  Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2017-03-31 23:20 +0200
          Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re:  Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) Nathan Dorfman <ndorf@rtfm.net> - 2017-04-01 11:00 +0200
        should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re:  Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) cbannister@slingshot.co.nz - 2017-03-31 14:10 +0200
          Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re:  Guide(s?) to backup philosophies) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-31 14:20 +0200
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                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2017-03-15 14:30 +0100
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                Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-03-15 21:50 +0100
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    Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-15 13:30 +0100
  Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-03-13 15:20 +0100
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