Re: why??why?why??

From	Jimmy Johnson <jimmyjhn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: why??why?why??
Date	2017-03-11 04:10 +0100
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On 03/10/2017 05:53 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> Jimmy Johnson:
>> On 03/10/2017 12:46 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:20:32 -0500 Henning <henning@itcfollmann.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Why don't you just custom install to meet your needs?
>>>
>>>  I did just that  With Wheezy, 5 years ago.  And I got the system I
>>> wanted.  But it's not a "forever" solution.  Wheezy support will
>>> cease when Stretch becomes Stable.  And along with it support for
>>> applications like browsers, too.  Chrome development and support ended
>>> last year.  Read Firefox will do the same this year or next.  Don't
>>> remember exactly.
>>>
>>> Nothing is forever.  And I'm looking for a replacement that fits my
>>> requirements.
>>
>> I replaced Wheezy with Ubuntu 14.04, the first thing I do is $'sudo
>> passwd root' after that I feel right at home and can install all the
>> software that I use in both Wheezy and Jessie and the theme's too. I see
>> no difference in stability. The 14.04 mini.iso is the way to start and
>> get the base package and build from there. I build all my systems from
>> the base install including this one.
>
> Is this all open?  Is it all free?  If you say yes I'll have to go and
> look at what that is.  If you say no, but who cares.  I'll have to say
> that, with the very little I know and understand, in a few years after
> debian folds, there will be nothing open or free.  There may be some
> bootleg old and hacked copies of debian and an Ubuntu license will be
> just a little cheaper than an MXS license.  And development in general
> will go downhill.

Ubuntu is just another way to say Debian, it uses the same licenses as 
far as I know.

> Question, of what I do not know.  If you have Debian 6 (don't recall the
> name) with all the backports enabled and up to date, if you download
> Firefox51, will it run?

I'm not using Squeeze for a few years, don't know.

> I recently took a look of siduction, which seems basically as sid with
> some funkified packages, and some non-free stuff on top, like firmware.
> It managed to identify and run some wifi gadget that I never got really
> working in debian.  It is beautiful, even some stuff I have hacked
> myself to make it work how I want to they have done.  Is it worth it?
> How many people right now are looking and studying the code that makes
> up the linux-patch?  I have faith that hundreds are scrutinizing the
> debian code beyond what debian developers do.

Yes, the last couple of years has produced some unhappy Debian coders 
and lost a few too.  Thankfully we still have good people with Debian, 
but some of the newbies could drive a person to another distro.

> I wouldn't though even would want to ask here  why is my damn debian
> installer package not working.  I have studied and installed anything
> that I could possibly find out needed to make it run.  It doesn't.
> On a different debian based distro, I downloaded and run it and it
> worked perfectly.  So I am contradicting my own "political" position.
> Debian is not for everyone.  It is a developers' system.  It is a solid
> foundation to build systems for those few that know how to do it.

"Damn Small Linux"(Debian) was one of those systems being used for 
different applications outside of the desktop, I was repairing climate 
control systems using it before I retired.

> And then there is this other thing.  It is only a few years ago that MS
> sold Win7 for big money, for non-commercial home use.  And they are not
> even supporting their own web browser to run on that flea-dog.  And I
> don't think anything based on w10 will run on 7.  Nobody is asking for
> their money back ....... and even if they did ........

I don't use Windows for 15 years, don't know.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

KDE Neon - Plasma 5.9.3 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda9
Registered Linux User #380263

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why??why?why?? Shahryar Afifi <shahryarafifi@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-10 03:20 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? darkestkhan <darkestkhan@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 09:20 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 09:40 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2017-03-10 10:10 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-10 10:20 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? Henning <henning@itcfollmann.com> - 2017-03-10 15:50 +0100
    Re: why??why?why?? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-03-10 17:00 +0100
    Re: why??why?why?? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 21:50 +0100
      Re: why??why?why?? Jimmy Johnson <jimmyjhn@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 02:00 +0100
        Re: why??why?why?? GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-11 03:00 +0100
          Re: why??why?why?? Jimmy Johnson <jimmyjhn@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 04:10 +0100
            Re: why??why?why?? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 14:30 +0100
              Re: why??why?why?? Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 18:40 +0100
        Re: why??why?why?? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 03:10 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 21:40 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-11 03:30 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 14:20 +0100
  Re: why??why?why?? Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 10:00 +0100
    Re: why??why?why?? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 12:20 +0100
      Re: why??why?why?? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 12:50 +0100
        Re: why??why?why?? darkestkhan <darkestkhan@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 14:20 +0100
        Re: why??why?why?? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 15:00 +0100
        Re: why??why?why?? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 17:00 +0100
          Re: why??why?why?? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-03-12 17:20 +0100
          [OT]Re: why??why?why?? Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-03-12 19:20 +0100
            Re: [OT]Re: why??why?why?? GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-12 23:00 +0100
              Re: [OT]Re: why??why?why?? Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-03-13 11:00 +0100
              Apology to siduction 17.01 (was Re: why??why?why??) GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-13 16:00 +0100
                Re: Apology to siduction 17.01 (was Re: why??why?why??) Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2017-03-13 20:30 +0100
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                Re: radeon black screen Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-14 00:40 +0100
                Re: radeon black screen Catherine Gramze <rhiamom@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 02:00 +0100
                Re: radeon black screen Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-14 03:00 +0100
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                Re: radeon black screen Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-03-14 06:20 +0100
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    Re: why??why?why?? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-03-14 05:20 +0100
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