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Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

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On 2017-03-03 at 13:00, Reco wrote:

> 	Hi.
> 
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500
> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
>> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
>> 
>> Package: systemd-sysv
>> Pin: version *
>> Pin-Priority: -1
>> 
>> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
>> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
>> difference.

I want to correct the record on this. When I wrote the above, I was
conflating multiple cases. What I have seen be ineffective is previous
pins, no longer present, against libpam-systemd and related packages; I
don't recall ever seeing anything try to install systemd-sysv in
violation of this pin.

(There are enough legitimate complaints against the systemd ecosystem;
there's no need to hurt the case against such things by throwing in
baseless complaints on top of them.)

> You may want to try somewhat different approach then:
> 
> Package: systemd-sysv
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: -1

I've noted this for later reference; if I ever see the
trying-to-install-packages-pinned-at--1 behavior again, I'll try that
variant.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 19:20 +0100
  Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-03-02 22:10 +0100
    Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 18:30 +0100
  Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-03-03 13:50 +0100
    Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 19:10 +0100
      Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-03-03 20:40 +0100
      Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 11:40 +0100
    Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 19:20 +0100
      Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-03-03 20:40 +0100
        Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Aquarius <aquarius@tutanota.de> - 2017-03-03 22:50 +0100
          Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? AntiX GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-03-04 13:00 +0100
            Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? AntiX Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 17:00 +0100
            Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? AntiX songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-03-04 21:00 +0100
          Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 16:40 +0100
            Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 22:40 +0100
              Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 05:10 +0100

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