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Re: Are there any conformant C compilers?

From Bart <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Are there any conformant C compilers?
Date 2022-09-02 16:01 +0100
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On 02/09/2022 14:52, David Brown wrote:
> On 02/09/2022 14:24, Bart wrote:
>> On 02/09/2022 08:30, David Brown wrote:
> 
>>> It is not easy to come up with a "perfect" solution for handling 
>>> constants and/or read-only access.  It's even harder when 
>>> retrofitting it to an existing language.
>>>
>>
>> It looks like everybody is now agreeing that dedicated solutions for 
>> named literals are preferable, separate from that mess of 
>> const/constexpr with all their dangers.
>>
> 
> No, it does not look like "everybody" is doing anything at all.  Please 
> stop extrapolating "one person" to "everyone", "most people",

Of /the participants in this thread/, two already seemed in favour of 
such a feature, and then Keith and now you have said you like 'constant'.

>> The only other actual literal is a string.
> 
> It is true that these types of literals are constants are common.  But I 
> am not keen on a solution that is arbitrarily limited like that.  A 
> feature that only works for a limited selection of the types available 
> is a waste of time as far as I am concerned.

C itself is limited like that. What types can it can manipulate by 
value? What types can usefully have values known and manipulated at 
compile-time?

The 'constant' feature that some advocate is specifically for values.

As an example of how it might work for a language that is not C, C++, 
Algol 68, or one of mine, then Pascal's 'Const' works for these types only:

- Ordinal types [integers and enumerations]

- Set types

- Pointer types (but the only allowed value is Nil).

- Real types [floats]

- Char

- String

If you aim to apply 'constant' to every conceivable type, then it's not 
going to work. The feature will never get implemented, there will not be 
enough distinction between 'constant' and 'const/constexpr' for 
elaborate types to make it worthwhile.

Result: there are will never be a dedicated feature for named literals 
of arbitrary integer and float types, which accounts for 99% of use-cases.

It's not only C's loss, but everyone's because there's going to be more 
unsafe buggy code about than otherwise. Or even if everyone is going to 
be as conscientious as you, a lot more effort has to be spent getting it 
right than otherwise.

ave spent far too much time with your personal language to
> have any understanding what is "hard" when it comes to changing a 
> language like C.

I've mentioned a couple of times that I've partially implemented 
'constant' in C. I didn't do so fully because there was no point (I have 
all the named literals I want in my own languages). It was just a proof 
of concept.

I didn't see any particular difficulties:

     constant T X = Expr;

Expr is evaluated once by the compiler into value Y, which needs to be a 
value known at compile, coerced to type T as needed.

Wherever that X is encountered within the program, then it is treated as 
though value Y had been written. There are these differences compared 
with just repeating Expr at each instance, or using a macro alias for Expr:

* Any names used are those in scope when X was defined

* Any constant reduction is done once

* When Y comprises a value that requires storage, then each instance can 
use the same memory

These apply to using const/constexpr too, so the further differences 
from those are:

* Values can be used as compile-time expressions (in the case of 'const')

* Assignment to X is not allowed at all (not just because it has type 
const T rather than T, but because it's meaningless; you can't assign to 
a value)

* Address-of can't be applied (not because it uses no storage - it might 
do - but again because Y is considered a /value/, regardless of what 
might be necessary behind the scenes).

Again to emphasise:

'constant' defines a named VALUE with no accessible storage

'const/constexpr' defined a named OBJECT with accessible storage


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Are there any conformant C compilers? antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2022-08-25 02:33 +0000
  Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-08-25 03:00 +0000
    Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2022-08-26 00:22 +0000
      Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-08-26 16:48 +0000
  Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2022-08-25 03:01 -0700
    Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2022-08-25 14:29 +0000
      Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-25 08:10 -0700
        Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2022-08-25 16:23 +0000
          Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-25 20:53 +0200
          Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-26 06:56 -0700
            Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-26 17:29 +0200
              Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-26 13:44 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-26 13:56 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-26 16:01 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-28 10:27 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 03:52 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-28 15:05 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 17:00 -0700
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-30 09:38 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 04:03 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2022-08-31 01:20 +0300
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-31 09:14 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 06:19 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 06:11 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-28 17:20 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 12:31 -0700
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-28 21:29 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 17:49 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-29 02:58 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 19:51 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-29 10:54 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-12 05:13 -0700
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-09-12 15:22 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-12 17:04 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-09-12 17:39 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-09-12 17:40 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-13 15:52 -0700
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-28 14:57 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-29 00:46 +0200
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-08-31 00:43 +0100
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-08-31 18:37 +0100
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-09-03 02:46 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-03 10:11 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-03 12:54 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-03 12:52 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-03 21:08 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-03 12:46 -0700
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                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-02 09:30 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-02 13:24 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 05:56 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-02 15:14 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-02 16:19 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-02 17:52 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 10:01 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 11:50 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 12:18 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-02 20:45 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 13:08 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-02 21:41 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 13:55 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-02 23:29 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 16:25 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-03 10:23 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-03 13:07 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-03 15:06 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-11 21:22 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-12 12:01 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-13 07:40 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-12 12:32 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-12 09:33 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-13 07:34 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-09-13 16:41 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-14 07:41 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-14 11:06 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-09-15 01:03 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-16 06:52 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-09-15 00:14 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-15 17:29 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Kaz Kylheku <480-992-1380@kylheku.com> - 2022-09-19 02:33 +0000
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-09-11 21:07 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 11:03 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-09-02 20:47 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-02 15:52 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-02 16:01 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-02 19:22 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-09-02 10:50 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2022-09-01 00:30 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-31 21:35 +0100
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-09-01 10:14 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 07:58 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-30 17:49 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 09:02 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-30 18:36 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 09:25 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 05:31 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-08-30 17:08 +0200
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 08:40 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2022-08-30 08:50 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Opus <ifonly@youknew.org> - 2022-08-27 20:04 +0200
    Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-08-25 17:03 +0100
    Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-25 09:50 -0700
      Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2022-08-25 12:04 -0700
        Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-25 12:25 -0700
  Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-25 08:23 -0700
    Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-25 09:58 -0700
      Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-26 07:51 -0700
        Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-26 11:50 -0700
          Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-26 19:45 -0700
            Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-26 22:03 -0700
              Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-08-27 08:14 -0700
                Re: Are there any conformant C compilers? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-08-27 11:23 -0700
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