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Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers
Date 2022-07-06 11:52 +0200
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On 06/07/2022 10:27, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On 6 Jul 2022 at 09:52:23 CEST, "pozz" <pozzugno@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I found that I2C peripherals embedded in most of MCUs are very complex
>> and most of the time they aren't reliable.
>> After some testing, I usually decide to write a bit-banging I2C code.
> 
> I have to agree here. I2C is conceptually simple, bu it is an edge triggered
> protocol and is very sensitive to noise unless you use buffer devices. It
> is excellent for master devices, but writing the slave software is much more
> complex to cover all cases.
> 

A key problem for I²C is the multi-drop nature of the lines.  The edges 
themselves are not the big problem, it is the weak pull-up that leaves 
the lines very susceptible to noise and interference.  SPI has edges, as 
do most protocols with a clock signal, but there the master drives high 
and low, giving a far more "solid" line.

I²C can be fine in simple cases, but there are several less-used 
features that complicate it, especially when used together.  That 
includes multi-master, clock stretching, 10-bit addressing, and newer 
faster speeds.  Good luck trying to make a microcontroller slave that 
works with all of that!

There is also the possibility of bus hang and invalid states.  This can 
hit you during development - if you stop your microcontroller and 
restart it (perhaps with a new program version) in the middle of an I²C 
transaction, you can leave the slaves stuck - they may need a reset or 
power-cycle to recover.

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I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Neelakantappa M <neelakantamaagi253@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 06:28 -0700
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 16:22 +0200
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-05 22:33 -0400
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-06 08:49 +0200
    Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 09:52 +0200
      Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2022-07-06 08:27 +0000
        Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 11:20 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stef <me@this.is.invalid> - 2022-07-06 13:43 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2022-07-06 15:49 +0000
        Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-06 11:52 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2022-07-07 17:19 +0100
            Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2022-07-07 19:49 +0300
              Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-07 23:22 -0400
                Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2022-08-05 22:07 +0100
                Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-08-05 21:10 -0400

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