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Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers

From Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers
Date 2022-07-06 08:27 +0000
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On 6 Jul 2022 at 09:52:23 CEST, "pozz" <pozzugno@gmail.com> wrote:

> I found that I2C peripherals embedded in most of MCUs are very complex
> and most of the time they aren't reliable.
> After some testing, I usually decide to write a bit-banging I2C code.

I have to agree here. I2C is conceptually simple, bu it is an edge triggered
protocol and is very sensitive to noise unless you use buffer devices. It
is excellent for master devices, but writing the slave software is much more
complex to cover all cases.

A client of ours carefully wrote hardware drivers for their CPUs and put
them on test. They saw one failure every hour or so. They then reverted
to the bit-bang drivers supplied by us with the compiler. No failures in two
weeks.

I have looked at these problems every few years or so, and the problem
for hardware drivers has always been fast noise pulses on the I2C lines.
By fast I mean up to several 10s of nanoseconds at a volt or so.

On the other hand we once did a hospital autoclave for which all I/O was
over I2C and it was rock solid ... but we used the recommended buffer
chips everywhere.

Stephen
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I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Neelakantappa M <neelakantamaagi253@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 06:28 -0700
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 16:22 +0200
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-05 22:33 -0400
  Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-06 08:49 +0200
    Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 09:52 +0200
      Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2022-07-06 08:27 +0000
        Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 11:20 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stef <me@this.is.invalid> - 2022-07-06 13:43 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2022-07-06 15:49 +0000
        Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-07-06 11:52 +0200
          Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2022-07-07 17:19 +0100
            Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2022-07-07 19:49 +0300
              Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-07-07 23:22 -0400
                Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2022-08-05 22:07 +0100
                Re: I2C Communication between two Microcontrollers Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-08-05 21:10 -0400

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