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Re: How did you update to stretch?

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On 2017-06-26 at 14:01, Brian wrote:

> On Mon 26 Jun 2017 at 13:06:29 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 03:04:30AM +1000, John Elliot V wrote:
>> 
>>> Can I ask why you did the apt-get upgrade before the apt-get
>>> dist-upgrade? Why not just go straight for apt-get
>>> dist-upgrade..?
>> 
>> Probably because (s)he read the release notes:
>> 
>> <https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade>
>
> The notes are clear but what is the point of following this
> procedure?
> 
> You do an upgrade, so an upgrade is done. No new packages. Fair
> enough. You are none the wiser about what would happen if a
> dist-upgrade is done next, so it is still a dive into the unknown.
> 
> Then you dist-upgrade. Why not leave out the previous step, unless
> there are packages you wish to keep? Perhaps an illustrative example
> of when the single-step process dist-upgrade fails would be helpful.

For one thing, this way any new code from e.g. apt/dpkg/etc. themselves
will be in place before you run the more-complex portion of the upgrade
process, and you'll be able to take advantages of any fixes or
improvements which may result from that.

> (I upgrade, reboot, dist-upgrade, But I am into cargo-cult).

I update, dist-upgrade, autoremove, remove $(deborphan), and then run
'update-flashplugin-nonfree --install', manually as root, about once a
day - not quite every day, but on average multiple times a week over the
gap between major releases.

Since I also track testing (by that name, not by release name) in
sources.list, that means that by the time the freeze ends and the
release officially occurs, I'm essentially already upgraded.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 15:00 +0200
  Re: How did you update to stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-06-26 15:20 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-06-26 15:30 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 15:50 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 16:00 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-06-26 16:50 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-26 17:30 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2017-06-26 15:50 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 19:10 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-26 19:10 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 19:20 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:10 +0200
          Re: How did you update to stretch? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-26 20:20 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 21:00 +0200
          Re: How did you update to stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:30 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-26 20:40 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 21:40 +0200
              Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 22:20 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-27 02:10 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-27 09:20 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-28 00:00 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2017-06-27 10:10 +0200
              Re: How did you update to stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-27 22:20 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-26 19:30 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:20 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-06-26 23:00 +0200
  Re: How did you update to stretch? Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-06-26 17:30 +0200

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