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Re: How did you update to stretch?

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On Mon 26 Jun 2017 at 14:16:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 2017-06-26 at 14:01, Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 26 Jun 2017 at 13:06:29 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 03:04:30AM +1000, John Elliot V wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Can I ask why you did the apt-get upgrade before the apt-get
> >>> dist-upgrade? Why not just go straight for apt-get
> >>> dist-upgrade..?
> >> 
> >> Probably because (s)he read the release notes:
> >> 
> >> <https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade>
> >
> > The notes are clear but what is the point of following this
> > procedure?
> > 
> > You do an upgrade, so an upgrade is done. No new packages. Fair
> > enough. You are none the wiser about what would happen if a
> > dist-upgrade is done next, so it is still a dive into the unknown.
> > 
> > Then you dist-upgrade. Why not leave out the previous step, unless
> > there are packages you wish to keep? Perhaps an illustrative example
> > of when the single-step process dist-upgrade fails would be helpful.
> 
> For one thing, this way any new code from e.g. apt/dpkg/etc. themselves
> will be in place before you run the more-complex portion of the upgrade
> process, and you'll be able to take advantages of any fixes or
> improvements which may result from that.

This is the sort of advice which should be in the Release Notes rather
than the anodyne reason which is given at present. It makes sense to
target one of the most fundamental aspects of Debian before moving on
to other things,

-- 
Brian.

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How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 15:00 +0200
  Re: How did you update to stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-06-26 15:20 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-06-26 15:30 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 15:50 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2017-06-26 16:00 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-06-26 16:50 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-26 17:30 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2017-06-26 15:50 +0200
    Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 19:10 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-26 19:10 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 19:20 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:10 +0200
          Re: How did you update to stretch? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-26 20:20 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 21:00 +0200
          Re: How did you update to stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:30 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-26 20:40 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 21:40 +0200
              Re: How did you update to stretch? John Elliot V <jj5@jj5.net> - 2017-06-26 22:20 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-27 02:10 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-27 09:20 +0200
                Re: How did you update to stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-06-28 00:00 +0200
            Re: How did you update to stretch? Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2017-06-27 10:10 +0200
              Re: How did you update to stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-27 22:20 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-06-26 19:30 +0200
        Re: How did you update to stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-26 20:20 +0200
      Re: How did you update to stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-06-26 23:00 +0200
  Re: How did you update to stretch? Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-06-26 17:30 +0200

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