Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?
Date	2017-05-15 21:10 +0200
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Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 05/14/2017 06:46 AM, David Wright wrote:
>> On Sun 14 May 2017 at 04:57:07 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 05/14/2017 02:40 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 May 2017 20:54:04 -0400
>>>> RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/13/2017 12:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>>>> I have a partition whose label is "common".
>>>>>
>>>>> I could almost smack myself in the head. I had done that when I used
>>>>> to dual-boot Windows / Linux (now you can see why I'm not a fan of
>>>>> dual-boot, I guess! LOL!). I also used to dual boot SolydX and SolydK
>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my VMs, I do use the guest additions and have a shared directory
>>>>> (necessity for what I need to do as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> But that was one way I had shared data.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I still balk at dual-booting (like you balk at VMs :) )
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another option I've used for some years: a pocket-sized USB hard drive
>>>> with an i386 all-modules installation, which boots on practically
>>>> anything that isn't an ARM.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you clarify what you mean by the phrase "i386 all-modules
>>> installation"?
>>
>> Recall this d-i screen?
> 
> I do now ;)
> Actually initrd and initramfs and were on my "google today" list.
> That may that may explain something I've recently noticed.
> As I experiment with many Debian versions and configurations I routinely
> can multi-boot among a a half dozen (or more) choices.
> 
> As I've had some spectacularly failed installs, my practice is to
> install Grub *ONLY* with the *FIRST* install. That way the default
> action is to boot a known good system and the questionable one will
> generally be last on the list (Grub insists on listing /dev/sda10 before
> /dev/sda2).
> 
> What I'm investigating is an apparent anomaly:
>    1. My primary machine had Jessie installed first with Squeeze
>       and Stretch later. It happily will boot all.
>    2. I've set up a designated EXPERIMENTAL machine. Squeeze was
>       installed first and thus Grub is associated with it.
>       Wheezy and Jessie were installed without Grub.
>       Squeeze runs fine and will browse the web.
>       However, update-grub does not recognize either Wheezy or Jessie.
>       Also, a netinst of Stretch failed at the network setup step -
>       haven't done any trouble shooting yet.
> 
> Two questions:
>    1. Can I retroactively choose "include all available drivers" and
>       if so, how?
>    2. How much free space would be required? As I was already planning
>       on some Grub experiments, I had left 10 MB un-partitioned before
>       /dev/sda1. That can easily be expanded.
> 
> TIA

If you like hacking the initrd

mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -Hnewc -i

...

find . ! -name *~ | cpio -H newc --create | gzip -9
> /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r`

I foundthisvery useful over the years, especially for testing things out

10MB would be enough for 1 kernel+initrd & co

I wouldn't use dedicated boot partition in your case. For testing you can
leave all on one partition. If you use dedicated boot partition and want to
share it among different installs - watch out to not format it ... and you
must keep all your kernels+initrd there.

regards

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How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 00:00 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:40 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:10 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:50 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 02:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 04:30 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 05:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-08 14:50 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 00:40 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 23:30 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 01:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 15:50 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-05-08 17:10 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 21:20 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-08 13:30 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-09 18:10 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-10 15:10 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:20 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-13 18:10 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-14 03:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 09:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 12:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 13:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 16:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 21:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 13:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Thanatos Incarnate <thanatosincarnate@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-17 12:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 20:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 08:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 14:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? G <gpdsb@mailbox.org> - 2017-05-17 17:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 17:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-17 18:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 18:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 18:40 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-17 00:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 14:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-11 00:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:00 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-08 17:40 +0200

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