Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

From	RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net>
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Subject	Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?
Date	2017-05-07 01:50 +0200
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On 05/06/2017 06:46 PM, Michael Milliman wrote:
> beta testing.  Usually, by the time Stretch reaches the 'frozen' stage,
> most of the major issues have been worked out, and it is reasonably
> ready for production.  However, they may still be a few problems to be
> worked out...it is a beta after all.

I have come to know over the years nothing is 100% perfect, even if it's 
out of beta. :) I've used beta software in the past that was very 
stable, and used stable software in the past that was buggier than 
you-know-what. (I must say the majority of the buggy software was back 
when I used to use Windows as my main OS). Since I use Debian as my main 
OS, I have had quite reliable and rock-solid results.

> I use out of distribution packages on occasion as well.  However, there
> is no guarantee that such packages will work or continue to work under
> the new distribution, even after it is released as Debian Stable.

The ones I use are Google Chrome (because I need to have things like 
bookmarks, etc. available across several devices), JEdit (I use this for 
development), TLP Power Management (because otherwise my laptop's fan 
would be on all the time and it would get quite hot for some reason), 
Thunderbird from Ubuntuzilla, and VirtualBox (because I like to have the 
latest). Also videolan is in there for the stuff needed for playing DVDs 
on my laptops. I don't use CiaroDock right now but I do have it 
commented out in case I want to go back to it. Also I added the 
backports repo. That's the crazy setup I have. I'm thinking of doing 
this for GIMP and Blender as well. Not sure yet. I like having new 
features. :) I'm considering going back to KDE and having the latest KDE 
updates, too (right now I'm doing quite well with XFCE from the Jessie 
repo). Sometimes I like to try different things (and do so usually first 
in a virtual machine for awhile).

> Having said that, if they worked under Debian 8, they may well work
> under Debian 9.  Keep in mind, however, the libraries available with
> Debian 9 will in many cases be new and updated versions, and may not be
> the same as the ones used by the out of distribution packages. So there
> may be some compatibility issues. (Issues I did have with one of the
> out-of-distribution packages I use.)

I've had that happen a long time ago with something (I forgot what now). 
Very much a PITA.

> Give it a try.  If it works for you great.

Going to do that in a VM first.

> If you have problems,
> especially with packages/libraries within the distribution, report them
> so that they can be addressed and fixed.  That kind of input is
> important in getting the Stretch distribution through the process to the
> Stable distribution.

I'll earn the "dumb question of the century" award for this but...

What list do I report bugs to and is there something online that tells 
someone (who doesn't normally report bugs) the proper way to do bug reports?

Thank you for the detailed information you gave. It's very much 
appreciated. :)

Thread

How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 00:00 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:40 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:10 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 00:50 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 01:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 02:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 04:30 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 05:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-08 14:50 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 00:40 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-07 23:30 +0200
    Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 01:50 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 15:50 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-05-08 17:10 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 21:20 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-08 13:30 +0200
      Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-09 18:10 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-10 15:10 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Michael Milliman <michael.e.milliman@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:20 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
          Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-13 14:20 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-13 18:10 +0200
            Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-14 03:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 09:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 12:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 13:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 16:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 21:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 13:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Thanatos Incarnate <thanatosincarnate@openmailbox.org> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 05:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-17 12:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 20:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-17 00:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 08:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 14:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? G <gpdsb@mailbox.org> - 2017-05-17 17:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-17 17:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-17 18:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 18:50 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:20 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 13:30 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-16 16:00 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 18:40 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-05-17 00:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-05-14 14:10 +0200
                Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-14 16:00 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-11 00:20 +0200
        Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mailinglists@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:00 +0200
  Re: How stable is the frozen stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-08 17:40 +0200

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