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On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:20:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> In article <5qvd2d-kpl.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>,
>  Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 04:36:40 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <71oc2d-cbb.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>,
>> >  Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 05:24:37 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > In article <ilh92d-h5b.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>,
>> >> >  Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 17:49:34 -0400, Dale wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > falls under the category that materialism and empiricism might
>> >> >> > not be able to have a "theory of everything" and that a "theory
>> >> >> > of anything"
>> >> >> > and spiritual essence might be necessary to explain the
>> >> >> > experience of sentience
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Or, we might require a theory explaining why jelly beans cause
>> >> >> everything else to exist.  If you're going to throw out random
>> >> >> nonsense, everyone else is allowed to as well... and with just as
>> >> >> much reason to take it seriously.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> "Spiritual essence".  Right...
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > They're at the very beginning of understanding how the brain works
>> >> > and how the mind emerges from it. What will the silly fundies do
>> >> > when we advanced our knowledge from say, pre-school levels to
>> >> > Ph.D. levels?
>> >> > 
>> >> > Their gaps just keep getting smaller and no matter how hard they
>> >> > rail and fight against it, they just cannot stop progress from
>> >> > happening.
>> >> 
>> >> If it weren't for the God of the Gaps, they'd have long since run
>> >> out of stupid ways to pretend their imaginary friends actually
>> >> exist.
>> > 
>> > Good to see you, Kelsey.
>> 
>> Thanks.  Whatever syndrome I've developed has some nasty side effects,
>> one of which is "fuck the universe, leave me alone".  :)
> 
> I can understand that.

My wife's an introvert, so it's *very* rare for us to deal with groups of 
people.  Despite this, we went to a party a while back, where issues like 
this came up for discussion.

I told them she was an introvert, I was an anti-social extrovert.  They 
couldn't wrap their heads around that until I explained that I liked 
being around sensible people, but also liked to (metaphorically) tear a 
new one into the dipshits who don't measure up, on the theory they will 
never again attempt to engage me in discussion.

Much tentative chuckling, with brief moments of curious introspection, 
ensued.

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definition of sentience Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-03 17:49 -0400
  Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 14:56 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 16:45 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 16:47 -0700
      Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 07:27 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 13:52 -0700
          Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 13:55 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:22 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience mur@. - 2016-06-03 22:29 -0400
    Re: definition of sentience Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-03 22:45 -0400
      Re: definition of sentience mur@. - 2016-06-06 21:56 -0400
    Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 07:43 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 16:49 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-04 05:24 -0700
      Re: definition of sentience Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-04 12:58 -0400
      Re: definition of sentience Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:18 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience Prince Michael <quarke.e2@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 13:58 -0700
          Re: definition of sentience hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-06-05 17:05 -0700
            Re: definition of sentience Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 09:43 -0700
            Re: definition of sentience Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-06-06 17:38 -0400
      Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 21:56 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 18:44 +1000
          Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 04:34 -0700
            Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 09:12 -0700
              Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 10:36 -0700
                Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 11:08 -0700
                Re: definition of sentience Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-06-05 16:50 -0400
                Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 14:35 -0700
                Re: definition of sentience hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-06-05 17:40 -0700
                Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 00:40 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 04:32 -0700
          Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 09:14 -0700
            Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 10:39 -0700
              Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 11:19 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-05 04:36 -0700
          Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 09:15 -0700
            Re: definition of sentience Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-05 15:20 -0700
              Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 15:38 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-04 12:57 -0400
      Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 21:57 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience mur@. - 2016-06-06 21:57 -0400
          Re: definition of sentience Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 20:58 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:09 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 07:54 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:32 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 08:02 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 10:34 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 08:06 -0700
      Re: definition of sentience Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 10:34 -0700
        Re: definition of sentience Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 13:54 -0700
  Re: definition of sentience Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-05 08:51 -0700
    Re: definition of sentience Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 09:37 -0700
      Re: definition of sentience hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-06-05 18:15 -0700

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