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Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.networking, alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns
Date	2018-12-20 19:20 +0100
Message-ID	<t43tef-6bt.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 20/12/2018 17.49, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> 
> About the suggestions to move to IMAP (from pop3).
> 
> Unfortunately I know nothing about IMAP.
> Before I try, I would like to know if it serves my purposes.
> 
> 1. I want to keep *all* messages in the server (gmail). If  for some
> reason I need to delete some of them I would prefer to use web browser
> to delete them there.
> 
> 2. I want to keep *some* messages locally - in inbox, in private local
> folders or in the trash, the later for some period. Nothing of this
> affecting the server.
> 
> 3. I want to keep some sent messages.
> 
> 4. I don't want that deleting messages locally causes messages being
> deleted in the server.
> 
> Is all of this possible with IMAP?
> 
> I am also concerned on how to migrate my local mails from pop3 to IMAP,
> but this may perhaps be easy. As last resource I can save them to local
> folders. Anyway, I don't want to loose things on the server.
> 
> Thank you very much for your suggestions and possible help on this.

Imap offers you, basically, the same view that the webmail has. In fact,
in some implementations, the webmail service access the mail via imap. I
don't know if Google uses this way or accesses directly the files.

Gmail mail implementation is not standard. For example, instead of
folders it uses labels. Folders are emulated.

1. By default, gmail keeps everything, no matter what you use.

Caveat: only one copy. For example, if you mail to a mail list, you will
never see the copy the mail list sends back to you as a subscriber. It
is considered a duplicate and deleted. This behaviour is peculiar to
gmail, it is not related to imap/pop3.

2. Just copy those messages to local folder(s). Everything you do in
your local folders is local.

3. If you send via gmail, everything will be kept at gmail. Thunderbird
may also keep a local copy.

4. See (2) above. Every action on the local folders is local. However,
everything you do on the IMAP view of gmail, is remote.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-18 22:15 +0000
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-18 23:20 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 17:47 +0000
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-18 15:44 -0700
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 04:52 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-19 09:22 +0100
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 12:10 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 17:58 +0000
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-12-19 12:35 -0600
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 22:47 +0100
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-19 16:52 -0700
        Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-20 04:23 +0100
          Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-19 20:34 -0700
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-19 18:05 +0000
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-19 22:51 +0100
  Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paulo da Silva <p_s_d_a_s_i_l_v_a_ns@netcabo.pt> - 2018-12-20 16:49 +0000
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-20 19:20 +0100
    Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-20 21:28 -0700
      Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-21 09:58 +0100
        Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 10:16 -0700
          Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-21 19:17 +0100
            Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 12:14 -0700
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-22 08:55 +0100
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-22 16:17 -0700
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-12-22 23:28 -0500
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2018-12-23 07:50 -0600
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2018-12-23 08:39 -0600
            Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-22 00:05 +0100
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2018-12-21 18:28 -0700
                Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-12-22 04:24 +0100
              Re: Configuring thunderbird for gmail (others?) pop3 - security concerns "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2018-12-22 08:50 +0100

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