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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022
Date 2022-03-06 12:46 -0500
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On 3/6/2022 12:11 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 03/05/2022 03:10 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> oath2whatever can't be implemented for POP by Thunderbird
>>
>> We had this discussion a few months back, yes it can, pop is what I use with TB
>> v91 and gmail, it may not be available with your older version?
> 
> TB 38.  Definitely older.
> 
> I'm wondering about downloading the latest TB version into a separate subdirectory, letting (requiring?) it to create a new profile, and then copying over the entire contents of my current profile over the new profile (cp -arf * I think).  This is my normal Firefox update method and it seems to work fine.  Will it work nicely with Thunderbird too?
> 

Thunderbird has profile migration. It can note the
"version numbers" inside files and deal with them.
For example, if you define a filter (killfile), those
have version numbers, and the file might need to be
migrated. On minor release changes, just the version
number field might change.

Some details might not have changed, simply because
of a lack of developers who understand them. Mork
format for example, a kind of database format, only
a couple people have a good idea how it works. More common
things like .eml format, share details with other email
clients.

Any password scheme, will change between releases.
There's more reason to be tweaking that aspect.
Or maybe the storage of certificates might be messed about.

Seamonkey, a parallel development scheme, their web page
usually has warnings about how "compatible" their migration
is. I don't think Thunderbird has nearly the same level of
warnings.

No tool likes to go "backwards". It's unlikely the tool
will like a request to migrate from 91 to 38. Such as
if you move a 91 profile, to your TB38 installation.

As for the "copying" step, you can edit "profiles.ini"
and add an entry which points to where-ever the profile
is located. For example, right now I have a profile folder
which is in ~/Downloads, where I am more likely to
bump into it, back it up, and so on. On Linux, the
"file system distance", likely isn't that large between
where the profile is normally stored, and the Downloads folder.
On Windows, the path is a bit more obscure (for casual users
who haven't turned off all Hidden features). On Windows,
it might be down in AppData:Roaming (visibility problem).

This is an example of an older format for a profiles.ini . Newer
ones are more of a mess for some reason. I won't put a newer one,
because I couldn't explain what they were thinking :-)

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0                                       <=== absolute path
Path=C:\Users\Username\Downloads\1234abcd.default  <=== absolute path
Default=1                                          <=== "nominated"

    Paul

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