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Re: slrn is trembling

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: slrn is trembling
Date 2018-10-05 00:02 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <sz0b003ga0gv.gho3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
>> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
>> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > <quote>
>> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
>> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
>> >>> > Return as for head().
>> >>> > </quote>
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
>> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
>> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
>> >>> > 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
>> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
>> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
>> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
>> >> 
>> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
>> >> september?
>> > 
>> > I don't have an account with them.
>> > 
>> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
>> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
>> >> of it anyway.
>> > 
>> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
>> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
>> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
>> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
>> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
>> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
>> > 
>> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
>> > 
>> 
>> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
>> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
>> connect:
>> 
>> authinfo user yourusername
>> authinfo pass yourpassword
>> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> 
>> I get this:
>> 281 Authentication succeeded
>> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 
> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
> don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.

It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
will return a list of commands that you can play with.

anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
Trying 85.214.115.223...
Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
381 Enter password
authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 
281 Authentication succeeded
group comp.os.linux.advocacy
211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
xhdr from 706009
221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
.
quit
205 Bye!
Connection closed by foreign host.
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 10:08 -0400
  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:51 -0700
    Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 13:50 -0400
      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:59 -0700
        Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:23 -0400
          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:12 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:21 -0700
          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:55 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:51 -0400
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:16 -0700
          "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 01:41 -0700
            Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:16 -0400
              Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:38 -0700
              Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 16:40 +0100
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:43 -0400
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 17:12 +0100
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 12:23 -0400
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-10-14 18:01 +0100
                No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 14:29 -0700
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:33 -0400
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:47 +0100
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:53 -0400
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:58 +0100
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:56 -0700
                Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:41 -0700
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:54 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-14 11:26 -0400
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 09:23 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-14 18:53 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 13:27 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-14 20:55 +0000
              Pipelining "Article" commands. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 14:23 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:49 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:34 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-15 21:54 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:15 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 21:51 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 03:16 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 20:33 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 10:26 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 07:44 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 15:17 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 12:26 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 09:46 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 10:21 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:00 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 16:49 +0000
      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 12:35 -0700
      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 20:44 +0000
        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:09 -0700
        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:50 -0700
          Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 22:32 +0000
            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 23:03 +0000
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:28 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:54 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:02 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:20 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:31 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:54 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:02 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:07 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:11 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:48 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:06 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:01 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 15:35 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:37 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:53 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:57 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:17 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:19 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:19 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:23 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:40 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 17:39 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:07 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:14 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:52 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 08:46 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:29 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:48 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:51 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 12:19 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:34 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-08 21:27 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 17:49 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:13 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:31 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 13:45 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:55 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 15:55 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:20 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:39 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 10:23 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 23:38 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 11:09 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:04 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 13:56 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 05:02 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:33 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:21 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-12 20:46 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:44 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:08 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:32 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:46 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:55 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:17 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 06:59 -0500
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:14 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 12:48 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 11:17 -0500
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:35 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 01:36 +0200
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:07 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:12 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:21 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-05 12:01 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:30 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:13 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 12:50 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 10:35 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 08:51 -0500
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:09 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-10-05 16:43 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:34 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:56 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 12:38 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 02:12 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 12:27 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:42 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 21:47 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 03:28 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 20:45 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 15:15 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 15:41 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 19:21 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 13:44 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 17:48 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:15 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:13 -0700
        Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 20:47 -0400
          Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:09 +0000
            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:18 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:38 -0400
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:04 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:05 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:35 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:36 -0400

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