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Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022

From The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: How to recover from Google dropping password support on May 30th 2022
Date 2022-03-04 21:20 -0800
Organization None, as usual
Message-ID <svurud$dbj$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <rqbafi-8li.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <svu4eg$p0i$1@dont-email.me> <unhafi-ego.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <svu7jd$h61$1@dont-email.me> <svucns$62d$1@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org>

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On 03/04/2022 05:00 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2022-03-04, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 03/04/2022 02:51 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-04 23:39, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 03/04/2022 01:10 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-03-04 21:57, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUT google's messages seem to say that passwords will no longer work
>>>>>> with google apps.  WTF?  Google's website offers no enlightenment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I resent being made to jump through hoops (opening an account in order
>>>>>> to ask a manufacturer a simple question about one of their products, for
>>>>>> example) in order to do things whose security is irrelevant.  This seems
>>>>>> like an even bigger nuisance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps I should already know this stuff, but given the fact that most
>>>>>> of what I do I could post on a billboard with no problems, exactly WHO
>>>>>> am I protecting with all this crap?  </rant>
>>>>>
>>>>> You may know what you are doing, but millions do not. So google enforces
>>>>> settings for those millions - and you.
>>>>
>>>> The price is too high.
>>>
>>> You have no say in the matter :-p
>>
>> Unfortunately.  Voting is about as useful.
>>
>>>> I did find out something useful, though.  oath2whatever can't be
>>>> implemented for POP by Thunderbird, but it shows up for the accounts I
>>>> marked as IMAP.  SOME accounts I marked as both POP and IMAP at the
>>>> gmail website, and they seemed to work just fine.  I shall investigate
>>>> further.
>>>
>>> I use imap on all my accounts.
>
>> I chose POP because I wanted to download mail to my computer and delete
>> it from the server.  The idea of having it floating around forever in
>> the cloud is unsettling.
>
> I use smtp instead, this meant I has to set up a SMTP server on my
> home computer, and organise a domain name for it, then I set my gmail
> accout to forward all mail to my SMTP server.

I'm confused.  SMTP is only for outgoing mail, right?  Various mail 
servers get kind of pissy if you don't use THEIR smtp servers.

>> This causes a problem when I take a tablet/phone on a trip and want to
>> read my mail on it, but download it to my computer when I get back.
>
> I use ssh from my phone if I need to read mail that is on my computer.

But it wouldn't be on my computer if I weren't there downloading it.


-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "If anyone disagrees with anything I  say, I am quite prepared
    not only to  retract it,  but also to deny under  oath that I
    ever said it."                                   -- T. Lehrer

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