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Re: Inline functions and locals

From Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Inline functions and locals
Date 2022-01-17 10:13 -0800
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On 1/17/2022 3:40 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 14.01.2022 um 02:51 schrieb Andrey Tarasevich:
> 
>> 2. Keyword `inline` has absolutely nothing to do with embedding 
>> function code at the call site. The purpose of `inline` keyword is to 
>> allow you to defeat ODR restrictions for a function (or a variable) 
>> with external linkage. ...
> 
> That's true for inline-variables but for inline-functions only parti-
> tially. For inline functions inline is also a hint for the compiler
> to inline the code in the calling code. But this is only a hint and
> not mandantory.

Um... Once again "only a hint to inline and not mandantory" is 
completely meaningless wording within the context of a formal document. 
Such wording should be relegated to a footnote, to explain the etymology 
of the keyword.

Currently, this is essentially a defect in the standard, which only 
serves to confuse people.

The proper wording describing the purpose and intent of `inline` should 
say something along the lines of "the purpose of `inline` keyword is to 
make the definition of a function with external linkage visible in all 
translation units without triggering an ODR violation".

Once they've stated that, they can also add a bit of rationale, e.g. 
"this helps facilitate inlining and many other useful optimizations"

Note, BTW, that when a full function body is visible to the compiler, 
the optimization benefits of such visibility go far beyond inlining.

-- 
Best regards,
Andrey Tarasevich

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Inline functions and locals Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-12 16:34 +0000
  Re: Inline functions and locals Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-01-12 17:38 +0100
  Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-12 12:47 -0500
  Re: Inline functions and locals Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-01-13 07:00 +0000
    Re: Inline functions and locals "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-13 10:45 +0100
      Re: Inline functions and locals Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-01-17 12:55 +0000
        Re: Inline functions and locals David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-17 15:14 +0100
        Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-17 10:24 -0800
          Re: Inline functions and locals David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-17 19:46 +0100
    Re: Inline functions and locals Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-01-13 11:08 +0100
      Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-13 19:30 -0800
  Re: Inline functions and locals Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-01-13 12:46 +0200
    Re: Inline functions and locals Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-13 15:38 +0000
  Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-13 17:51 -0800
    Re: Inline functions and locals Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-14 11:22 +0000
      Re: Inline functions and locals Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-01-14 04:02 -0800
        Re: Inline functions and locals Manfred <invalid@invalid.add> - 2022-01-14 17:30 +0100
          Re: Inline functions and locals Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-14 16:49 +0000
        Re: Inline functions and locals Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-14 16:40 +0000
          Re: Inline functions and locals Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2022-01-14 11:28 -0800
          Re: Inline functions and locals "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-14 20:29 +0100
      Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-14 08:34 -0500
        Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-14 11:26 -0500
          Re: Inline functions and locals David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-14 18:47 +0100
      Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-14 08:43 -0800
        Re: Inline functions and locals Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-01-17 05:38 +0000
          Re: Inline functions and locals David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-17 08:12 +0100
            Re: Inline functions and locals "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-01-16 23:51 -0800
              Re: Inline functions and locals "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-01-16 23:55 -0800
              Re: Inline functions and locals David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-17 11:35 +0100
            Re: Inline functions and locals Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2022-01-17 09:50 +0000
              Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-17 14:39 -0500
                Re: Inline functions and locals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-01-17 15:34 -0800
                Re: Inline functions and locals "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-17 15:50 -0800
                Re: Inline functions and locals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-04-25 03:42 -0700
                Re: Inline functions and locals "james...@alumni.caltech.edu" <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-04-25 08:48 -0700
          Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-16 23:53 -0800
            Re: Inline functions and locals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-01-17 15:29 -0800
    Re: Inline functions and locals Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-01-17 12:40 +0100
      Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-17 10:13 -0800
        Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-17 16:15 -0500
          Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-17 16:28 -0800
            Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-17 22:55 -0500
              Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-18 11:32 -0800
                Re: Inline functions and locals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-18 19:03 -0500
                Re: Inline functions and locals Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-18 17:22 -0800
        Re: Inline functions and locals Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2022-01-18 09:20 +0100

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