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Re: Recommendation: Backup system

From Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Recommendation: Backup system
Date 2016-10-10 19:30 +0200
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:48:57 +0100
Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 11:37:31AM +0200, mo wrote:
> > Make a long story short:
> > Have you guys a recommendation for me?
> > Is there a specific application you use for your backups guys?
> 
> rdiff-backup[1]. I don't know what your NAS is, whether it's an off-the-shelf
> thing or a DIY system, but I tend to initiate the backups on my NAS (which is
> a Debian-powered mini itx PC). You can initiate from the clients instead if
> you prefer.
> 
> rdiff-backup is, conceptually, quite similar to the level of detail you are
> working at with your script, so it should be easy to get working. I'd also
> consider looking at Obnam[2], and I'd avoid rsnapshot if I were you (it
> falls over with large quantities of files, such as mailboxes, and rdiff-backup
> basically does the same job but better).

Interesting, thanks. I've been using rsnapshot for years, and am
basically satisfied with it, although the performance when run on my
T61 laptop (backing up to a (slow) USB external disk) is indeed painful
(I do have largeish Maildirs). [Interestingly, when run on my ARM
(Kirkland) NAS, pulling from the laptop over ethernet / wifi,
performance seems much better ...]

One thing I really like about rsnapshot is how the backups are all
stored just as the files themselves, without any special formats, and
can therefore be inspected / restored from using just the ordinary
filesystem tools.

A number of years ago I looked at rdiff-backup, but dropped it due to
suspicions of the code quality: the project seemed to be dead, and even
significant bugs were being ignored:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623336
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00182.html

I see that you, too, have a report that's been ignored for more than 5
years ;)

Am I being unreasonable? You are certainly more of an expert than I - I
suppose you find that it is quality software, and better than
rsnapshot, despite basically being dead?

Celejar

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Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 11:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 15:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 18:30 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Clive Menzies <clive@clivemenzies.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 18:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 19:50 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Clive Menzies <clive@clivemenzies.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 20:00 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 22:10 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-02 06:20 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 22:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 16:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 17:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 17:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 17:20 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-01 19:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 23:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 10:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 15:00 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 01:20 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-02 03:00 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 11:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-02 13:10 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 14:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-03 11:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-10-03 14:40 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Markus Grunwald <markus@the-grue.de> - 2016-10-03 14:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-05 04:10 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2016-10-05 05:10 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-05 23:40 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-07 12:20 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-12 12:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-03 17:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 19:30 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-11 00:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dave Thayer <debian1628420.dmthayer@recursor.net> - 2016-10-11 05:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-10-04 20:50 +0200

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