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Re: Recommendation: Backup system

From Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Recommendation: Backup system
Date 2016-10-05 04:10 +0200
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On 04/10/16 01:45, Markus Grunwald wrote:
> Hello Teemu,
>
>>> rsync, whilst an awesome piece of software, is not, on its own, a
>>> backup system.
>>
>> Yes. With some scripting I think "rsync" with "--link-dest" is quite
>> ideal for incremental backups. Unchanged files are created as hard
>> links for the previous backup files. Every backup generation is just
>> a normal and complete file system tree.
>
> I haven't followed this thread closely, but:
>
> To everybody who ponders using rsync for backup, I strongly suggest a
> closer look at "dirvish". I'm using it to backup servers, laptops,
> raspberries. It is not hard to configure, uses rsync with hard links
> for "incremental" backups and keeps older versions of the backups.

That's what I use too. I use it with rsync over ssh as root, with the
remote set up for root to run forced commands only, and in order to back
up different trees independently, I use different ssh keys, each with
its own forced command. That's a bit fiddly to set up, but seems to work ok.

On 04/10/16 04:06, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> That's basically a less convenient rsnapshot, with all the caveats
> (bad performance for large trees of files like mailboxes)

Can you elaborate on the performance issues? I'm using dirvish for my
maildirs (dovecot imap server), without noticeable problems.

One change I do make is to enable 'dateext' in my logrotate config, so I
don't end up with endless duplicates of my logfiles due to the names
changing.

My current challenge is to back up windows boxes - if I can get rsync to
work (maybe DeltaCopy? Not sure if that will work how I want), I guess
I'll be stuck doing a local rsync of a smbfs mount ... unless someone
has a better suggestion.

Richard

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Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 11:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 15:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 18:30 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Clive Menzies <clive@clivemenzies.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 18:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-01 19:50 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Clive Menzies <clive@clivemenzies.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 20:00 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 22:10 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-02 06:20 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 22:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 16:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 17:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 17:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 17:20 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-01 19:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 23:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 10:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-10-02 15:00 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 01:20 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-02 03:00 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 11:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-10-02 13:10 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 14:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-03 11:50 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-10-03 14:40 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Markus Grunwald <markus@the-grue.de> - 2016-10-03 14:50 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-05 04:10 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Daniel Bareiro <daniel-listas@gmx.net> - 2016-10-05 05:10 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-05 23:40 +0200
          Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-07 12:20 +0200
            Re: Recommendation: Backup system Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2016-10-12 12:10 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-03 17:10 +0200
    Re: Recommendation: Backup system Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 19:30 +0200
      Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2016-10-11 00:00 +0200
        Re: Recommendation: Backup system Dave Thayer <debian1628420.dmthayer@recursor.net> - 2016-10-11 05:40 +0200
  Re: Recommendation: Backup system Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-10-04 20:50 +0200

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