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Re: Iron In Periodontitis

From Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwin@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups sci.med.dentistry
Subject Re: Iron In Periodontitis
Date 2021-12-10 22:41 -0500
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On 12/10/2021 3:12 AM, John Forkosh wrote:
>>
>> 1) Increase in ferritin has potential causes other than diet
>> 2) Association does not indicate causation.
> 
> Actually, re item 2, it kind of does. Not direct A-->B causation,
> but indirect C-->A && C-->B, i.e., a (so far undetected) common
> cause for both A and B. The typical paradigmatic example given
> is the 100% correlation between the monsoon season in India,
> which always begins several weeks after flowers bloom in upstate
> New York. So NY flowers cause India's monsoons? No, but the Earth's
> orbit around the Sun causes both. So the point here would be to
> suggest that maybe (emphasize maybe) whatever (besides diet, as per
> your item 1) is causing ferritin increase might also be responsible
> for the periodontitis increase. At least, might be worth looking at.
> 

Hi John, hope all is well.
You are correct of course.  I might better have said that correlation 
does not NECESSARILY mean causation (or not the direction of causation. 
  A direct cause of high ferritin might be hemochromatosis. 
Hemochromatosis is often undiagnosed.  My late wife had hemochromatosis, 
she definitely did NOT have periodontitis.  Has that study been done? 
Apparently yes!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6195524/

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Iron In Periodontitis tom hennessy <teamtanner@hotmail.com> - 2021-12-09 00:47 -0800
  Re: Iron In Periodontitis Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwin@earthlink.net> - 2021-12-09 10:46 -0500
    Re: Iron In Periodontitis John Forkosh <forkosh@panix.com> - 2021-12-10 08:12 +0000
      Re: Iron In Periodontitis Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwin@earthlink.net> - 2021-12-10 22:41 -0500
        Re: Iron In Periodontitis John Forkosh <forkosh@panix.com> - 2021-12-12 16:17 +0000

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