Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery
Date	2016-10-01 15:00 +0200
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On Sat 01 Oct 2016 at 21:23:33 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 12:36:10PM +0200, mo wrote:
> > 
> > I just did that and now mailing works flawlessly :D
> > Just one questions: Why do i need hubbed_host entries? Should it not be fine
> > alone to make a entry in /etc/hosts for the machines i want to send mail to
> > (I do not operate a dedicated DNS server).
> > This is something i dont really understand...
> 
> hubbed_host entries apply only to exim4. I also suspect, but am not 
> sure, that they are a Debian extension to exim4 in the sense that the 
> *DEBIAN* exim4 comes configured for them out of the box, while the 
> upstream exim4 does not. IIRC there is no reference to hubbed_hosts in 
> the upstream documentation, only in the Debian docs.

Correct. I'll add: the upstream documentation spec.txt.gz covers
hubbed_hosts in sections 20.3 to 20.7. It is not obligatory to read it.

> They work because the debian config contains a router to handle hubbed 
> hosts. You can see what it is doing if you search 
> /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated for the text hubbed_hosts.

Fine.

> If the file is not populated this router is skipped and then exim4 
> requires either that the address is the local machine, or that there is 
> a smarthost configured that it can delegate to, or that it can find an 
> official MX entry for the target domain by doing a DNS lookup. All of 
> which will fail for a local box that isn't registered to the world as a 
> mail server.

The thing for Mo to grasp is that exim *always* does an MX lookup, often
using the ISP's DNS server. user@server will fail (as has been found
out) because the domain "server" is not in the DNS.

/etc/hosts is not consulted when the lookup is done. exim can be made to
look at /etc/hosts but for such a simple setup it is not worth the
effort and would likely lead to a world of pain.

-- 
Brian.

Thread

Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-09-30 22:30 +0200
  Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 00:50 +0200
  Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 04:00 +0200
    Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 12:40 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 13:30 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 13:50 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Clive Menzies <clive@clivemenzies.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 14:00 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:30 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:40 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:00 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 15:00 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 15:00 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 15:10 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:40 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 16:20 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 16:40 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2016-10-01 16:00 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 16:20 +0200
  Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 11:10 +0200
    Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 12:10 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 12:40 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 14:30 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:30 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 15:00 +0200
              Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 15:10 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
    Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:40 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 14:10 +0200
    Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 14:20 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 16:30 +0200
    Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:30 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-01 20:20 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-02 00:30 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 02:30 +0200
              Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 13:10 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-02 10:50 +0200
        Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 23:10 +0200
          Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-02 00:40 +0200
            Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 02:10 +0200
              Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-02 14:00 +0200
                Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 14:50 +0200
                Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-10-02 15:20 +0200
                Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:50 +0200
                Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-10-02 15:40 +0200
                Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 17:30 +0200
      Re: Configuring Exim for mail delivery mo <mo777@gmx.net> - 2016-10-01 22:50 +0200

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