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Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012

From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012
Date 2018-09-21 22:38 +0000
Organization Miskatonic U
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In message <po2jei$63n$1@news.albasani.net> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
> On 9/20/18 8:09 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <po1ig0$745$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
>> <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> But, she's still paranoid about losing those photos, Time Machine be
>>> damned.  So, on her own, she bought another external drive and wanted to
>>> back up her photos on that.  So, I showed her how to copy her iPhoto
>>> library from the one drive to the new drive.  Takes well over the night
>>> to do.  Before doing this copying, she thought that after adding a half
>>> dozen photos to the library, it would take no time at all back up *just*
>>> the new photos in the library.
>>>
>>> Now when she sees how long each new copy process takes to accomplish, I
>>> think she'll give up that idea in search of some thing different.
>> 
>> what she needs is a cloning app, such as carbon copy cloner, which will
>> copy only changed files rather than everything each time, and not just
>> the photo library either, but the entire drive (or selected files if
>> desired).

> If she actually had the individual files on the hard drive, this would 
> work.  But, she doesn't.  Everything goes into the library.

The Library is a folder. This works perfectly well.

>> it can also be set up for scheduled backups, which can be set to happen
>> overnight or whenever she's not using the computer. it can even wake
>> the computer and then go back to sleep when the clone is done. there is
>> also a menu extra to initiate a clone at any time.

> At this point in time, that won't work.  She doesn't have the 
> foundational knowledge to understand this.  Rather like trying to teach 
> someone algebra, when they don't know how to add and subtract.

"Don't touch the computer for 24 hours"

>> what you want is something in addition to time machine, such as a
>> clone, since they each cover different types of situations.

> But, as I noted, that's not something she would understand, so it would 
> be a waste of time to even try.

She doesn't have to understand it, it happens automatically.

>> also, consider a network attached server rather than have a bunch of
>> drives connected all the time, which can also be configured to back
>> itself up. this does add a little more complexity (at least initially),
>> but you did say she's paranoid. once set up, it can be entirely
>> automatic with no user intervention.

> Whoa!!!  Quit right here!  I need to try to stay as close to the KISS 
> principle as possible.

From her point of view a NAS is the same as an external drive.


-- 
Angie, Angie, when will those clouds all disappear?
Angie, Angie, where will it lead us from here?
With no lovin' in our soul and no money in our coats You can't say we're satisfied
But Angie, Angie--You can't say we never tried

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Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 18:01 -0600
  Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 20:22 -0400
    Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 18:37 -0600
      Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 20:51 -0400
        Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 19:45 -0600
          Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 22:09 -0400
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 05:08 -0600
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:20 -0400
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 09:06 -0600
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 11:31 -0400
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 10:50 -0600
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-21 12:53 -0400
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:06 -0400
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-21 12:40 -0400
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2018-09-24 09:07 +0200
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-24 20:23 -0600
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:38 +0000
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 18:54 -0400
          Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 11:13 +0000
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 10:49 -0600
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:06 -0400
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:47 +0000
      Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-21 19:21 +0200
        Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:24 -0400
          Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:49 +0000
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-22 00:55 +0200
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 19:14 -0600
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-22 07:45 +0000
                Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-22 07:40 -0600
          Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-22 00:51 +0200
  Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-21 13:41 +1200
    Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 05:17 -0600
  Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-25 20:20 -0600
    Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 22:26 -0400
      Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-25 21:04 -0600
        Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 23:09 -0400
          Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2018-09-26 08:09 +0200
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-09-27 00:49 +1200
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-26 07:37 -0600
            Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2018-09-27 08:08 +0100
              Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-28 17:43 +0000
        Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-09-26 05:56 +0200

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