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| Started by | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| First post | 2018-09-14 14:41 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-10-21 19:03 +0000 |
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Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:41 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 14:47 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2018-09-14 16:33 +0100
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:14 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:41 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 03:12 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-19 20:29 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:34 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-20 08:54 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-20 14:17 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-20 19:30 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-18 09:42 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 16:11 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-18 12:31 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:22 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-18 19:35 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 05:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 07:52 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-19 15:32 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:55 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-09-22 19:26 -0700
[OT] Malware alert? (was: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-14 15:28 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:30 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:47 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 03:01 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 23:55 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 04:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 12:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 09:12 -0400
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 21:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 14:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-15 15:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:51 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-17 11:55 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-18 14:00 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-18 23:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Malware alert? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:43 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 16:31 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 14:06 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:17 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:31 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 21:43 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 17:51 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:02 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:26 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:32 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:42 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:07 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:20 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-14 22:38 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-14 18:51 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-22 20:46 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-15 00:12 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 00:54 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:13 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:56 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 21:23 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 01:59 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-15 02:35 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-16 01:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 03:13 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-15 23:21 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 04:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-09-17 06:47 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 14:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-21 07:48 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:34 -0500
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:53 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-28 08:50 +1200
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-11-13 13:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 12:48 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-16 14:20 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-16 22:37 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:28 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-17 13:38 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-19 04:27 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 01:53 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-19 22:02 -0400
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 02:10 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 19:57 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-20 20:10 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-21 08:15 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:30 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 13:59 +0000
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2018-09-27 17:32 +0200
Re: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed) Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-10-21 19:03 +0000
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-22 19:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.2157315A0379B3DA7000046F22CF@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #50859 |
On Sep 22, 2018, Carlos E. R. wrote (in article <g0o6knFe7dU1@mid.individual.net>): > On 18/09/2018 12.11, Arlen Holder wrote: > > On 18 Sep 2018 06:42:20 GMT, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > > > > The method you described is a very common method and I'm surprised it > > > > was 'new' to you in the first place. Please see my other post > > > > concerning the limitations you didn't mention, because you haven't > > > > experienced them due to the small amount of hardware/software you > > > > interact with. > > > > > > Exactly my thoughts. > > > > Carlos, I don't think you understand the system. > > > > But, I'll give you a chance to prove you understand it. > > Look man, you have posted a thousand posts with a thousand lines each. I > refuse to read them all, and those I read I do not read to the end. You > speak way too much. > > Copying files via USB using Linux from a Windows partition is just > trivial stuff not worth writing about. > > Just be glad that I still haven't killfilled you. If you want answers, > write short entries, keep stupidities out (no saying iphone or iphone > people are stupid, for instance), and keep to the point. > > And I don't care about iphones. A few thoughts on this: "I don't mind you thinking I'm stupid, but don't talk to me like I'm stupid." ~ Harlan Ellison "The world is turning into a cesspool of imbeciles." ~ Harlan Ellison "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." ~ Harlan Ellison "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right." ~ Thomas Paine "It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect and expose delusion and error." ~ Thomas Paine “The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but plunges him more deeply into them.” ~ Antoine de Saint Exupery I have removed some of the irritating, irrelevant cross posts. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 15:28 +0000 |
| Subject | [OT] Malware alert? (was: Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)) |
| Message-ID | <pngr45.93s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #50636 |
Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: [...] > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8918650usb01.jpg> > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8157466usb02.jpg> > <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2107706usb03.jpg> FWIW, when I visited these pages, I got a popup - allegedly from Windows Defender [1] - claiming that I had some kind of malware and telling me to call 'Microsoft' at some number. Yeah, RIGHT! I am not accusing you or this website of anything, but these pages were the only 'special' ones I had open at the time, the two others were websites which I use very often. After the popup, there was an even more 'terryfying' :-) page with alarming messages in red. Somehow they managed to demote the browser (IE) to the bottom of the Task Manager list, so you had to freeze Task Manager in order to do an 'End Task' on IE. OTOH, may be I was just a target, because I just bad-mouthed Windows 10! :-) [1] Never mind that I don't run Windows Defender.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 16:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pngnn6$t3m$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50638 |
On 14 Sep 2018 08:28:52 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8918650usb01.jpg> >> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8157466usb02.jpg> >> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2107706usb03.jpg> > > FWIW, when I visited these pages, I got a popup - allegedly from > Windows Defender [1] - claiming that I had some kind of malware and > telling me to call 'Microsoft' at some number. Yeah, RIGHT! I've used http://bild.me for a long time where nobody complained. But since there was a typo in the original files anyway, I modified them just now, and uploaded them using http://fileconvoy.com These files will be deleted in 21 days, but they're available now. <http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=gcb6a0b17f6ad694c1000113621fa665a5352f6f259> If you have a better free no-reg photo upload site, let me know and I'll use that instead. Mainly, the screenshots simply prove I did the file transfer between the mobile device and the Windows system disk, without even Windows being booted (it needs to NOT be set to hibernate though). I provide proof with screenshots since there is always a "genius" who claims to have a "better" method which he can never explain. I've been on Usenet for decades, where some "genius" always claims to have a better file transfer method - which never exists when you ask for proof. This cross platform file transfer method is the *best* I can think of, since it has zero restrictions, it works on everything, and, it requires no software other than what comes with a typical system. I doubt there is a *better* mechanism on this planet - but if you know of a better mechanism for transferring large files between Windows and Ubuntu and iOS and Android - please let us all know because this is as good as it gets as far as I know.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-14 18:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <g02s49Fj4t4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #50641 |
On 14/09/2018 12.30, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2018 08:28:52 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
>>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8918650usb01.jpg>
>>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8157466usb02.jpg>
>>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2107706usb03.jpg>
>>
...
> Mainly, the screenshots simply prove I did the file transfer between the
> mobile device and the Windows system disk, without even Windows being
> booted (it needs to NOT be set to hibernate though).
I fail to see what is so fantastic or rare about that.
The Windows system disk is just another disk to Linux, and transferring
files over usb to a tablet is just normal business of the day.
Now, 2 gigabytes per minute means 33 MB/second. As USB-2 can do
440Mbit/S, that is hardly surprising, providing the write speed of the
target device is up to the task. If not, you are measuring the cache speed.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 00:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnhje4$bpl$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50660 |
On 14 Sep 2018 15:47:36 GMT, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I fail to see what is so fantastic or rare about that.
Hi Carlos,
Thanks for the adult question, where we've spoken a lot in the past so I
know you are generally reasonable. (See the speed question for you at the
end of this post.)
*The biggest deal is that most people don't *know* of this clever method!*
Bearing in mind how *simple* this method is, and how *powerful* it is, the
big deal is simply disseminating the *knowledge* of this clever system.
What's fantastic is the simple *power* & *flexibility* of this USB method.
- Any mobile device (it doesn't matter who owns the device)
- Any file (it doesn't matter what size or file type it is)
- Any number of files (that's why we use the native "file explorer")
- Zero proprietary software (there are no limitations on cross platforms)
- Zero setup (everything mounts automatically)
etc.
Bear in mind there are tens of thousands (likely) of threads on "how to
copy" from either iOS or Android to Windows, right?
If all those people knew of this patently simple method, they wouldn't be
asaking all those question, now would they?
So the "big deal" is the *knowledge* of the simple secrets.
HINT: The secret to copying to *Windows* is to use *Linux!* <--- clever!
What else is fantastic is that, while you're very knowledgeable, most
people are not anywhere nearly as knowledgeable as you are, in terms of
networking abilities.
Hence, most people use kludges like the iTunes abomination or HTTP servers
on the mobile devices.
For example, has anyone posited a *better* (e.g., faster?) method yet?
HINT: The answer is that there is likely no better USB method known to man.
If there was, someone would propose it, wouldn't they?
> The Windows system disk is just another disk to Linux, and transferring
> files over usb to a tablet is just normal business of the day.
Carlos ... we have to be realistic when we speak facts.
You just spoke a patently valid fact. I agree.
Adults easily agree on facts.
Facts are funny that way.
My primary response to you is simply what about the reverse?
Bearing in mind that the movies I was transferring came over on Windows.
I know you know the answer to this next question, but I pose it so that
others can see why *this method* is the *best* known to man.
Here's the reverse question (rhetorical for you, Carlos, but not others):
Q: Is this statement true or false?
"The /Linux/ system disk is just another disk to /Windows/,
and transferring files over usb to a tablet is just normal
business of the day."
The point is that if you approach this same problem set from the Windows
platform (and likely from the Mac, but it's hard to tell given that Apple
Apologists live in a world of imaginary belief systems) - it won't work as
well.
Only if you approach it from the Ubuntu side of the desktop, does this
method work so stupendously astoundingly well.
HINT: There's no need for iTunes or proprietary Apple device drivers with
this method.
> Now, 2 gigabytes per minute means 33 MB/second. As USB-2 can do
> 440Mbit/S, that is hardly surprising, providing the write speed of the
> target device is up to the task. If not, you are measuring the cache speed.
Carlos ... let's learn more about speed!
The 2GB/minute were my ad hoc results from this morning's effort.
You're likely using far newer equipment than I am, since all my desktops
are about a decade old - so it would be nice to know what the *fastest
likely speeds are achievable on these two circumstances:
What are reasonably attainable speeds on:
1. USB on a more modern desktop to/from an iOS/Android mobile device.
...versus...
2. FTP/SMB/HTTP on those same (i/o limited?) devices
Note: I'm not sure where the speed limitations lie, so let's assume the
latest operating systems of Ubuntu 18.04, Android 7 or 8, iOS 11 or 12, and
Windows 7 or 10.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 01:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnhmed$h1r$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50662 |
On 15 Sep 2018 00:23:32 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote: > What are reasonably attainable speeds on: > 1. USB on a more modern desktop to/from an iOS/Android mobile device. > ...versus... > 2. FTP/SMB/HTTP on those same (i/o limited?) devices While the typical speeds to be attained over USB & FTP should be clearly stated, if we're to be adults about this discussion ... I wish to be clear that this thread was never intended to be about FTP. I should be clear that it was nospam who wanted to change the topic from USB file transfer between mobile devices & Windows via Linux ... to FTP file transfer between those same file systems ... perhaps because nospam knows full well how dismal iOS is with USB file transfer to and from native Windows. HINT: It can't be done with iOS because iOS is brain dead for USB. Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on Windows? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/WjeGznahZwc%5B101-125%5D> I wish to be clear that it wasn't Carlos or Jason who desperately wants the subject to NOT be about what iOS clearly can't do, to something that iOS potentially can do. But if we switch the topic to FTP, which is the only thing iOS can do with native Windows, then you have to understand how fundamentally different the results are from USB when you try to do the same things with iOS on FTP. *Are you aware of these iOS-based limitations when you speak about FTP?*
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-14 21:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <140920182124002829%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #50667 |
In article <pnhmed$h1r$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: > > While the typical speeds to be attained over USB & FTP should be clearly > stated, ftp doesn't have a 'typical speed'. it's whatever the network and devices support. > if we're to be adults about this discussion ... I wish to be clear > that this thread was never intended to be about FTP. then why did you mention it? > I should be clear that it was nospam who wanted to change the topic from > USB file transfer between mobile devices & Windows via Linux ... to FTP > file transfer between those same file systems ... perhaps because nospam > knows full well how dismal iOS is with USB file transfer to and from native > Windows. it should be clear that you're trolling, again.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-15 01:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnho2j$jfr$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50670 |
On 14 Sep 2018 18:24:00 GMT, nospam wrote: > ftp doesn't have a 'typical speed'. it's whatever the network and > devices support. The cross-platform limiting factor here is always going to be iOS. Q: What method do you propose for full r/w access to all visible files on all mobile devices, to and from native Windows, if you don't use this method? HINT: a. iOS is the limiting factor b. iOS is brain dead on Windows USB c. iOS is barely functional on FTP (compared to Linux USB) This thread is about the fastest possible read/write file transfer between both iOS & Android mobile devices and native Windows, via native Linux. That mechanism, bar none, gives the best cross platform method that works read/write on both iOS and Android to and from native Windows, using Linux. The problem here is that others don't know what I know, where you know full well that *iOS USB file transfer is brain dead on native Windows*. So you desperately wish to change the subject to FTP. Why? Because iOS isn't as brain dead for FTP as iOS is brain dead for USB. That's why. You do this silly trick _all_ the time, nospam. Since you, nospam, are an expert at playing your silly childish games, you'll likely be successful at changing the subject from what iOS clearly can't do - to something that - at least - iOS can partially do. However, if you wish to make the topic FTP, then you're going to have to answer adult questions on how FTP on iOS is drastically different in effective results (due to astoundingly huge Apple-created limitations) than the results are on Android. *I ask you nospam, do you really want to make this thread about FTP?* Because, if you do, the astoundingly huge limitations of iOS as compared to Android on FTP will need to be explained to the naive on this newsgroup. HINT: The limitations of iOS with respect to FTP file access, compared to that of Android, are astoundingly severe. The point is that the huge cross-platform limitations in picking the *best* and *fastest* and most *versatile* file-system transfer read/write mechanism, bar none, between all the mobile devices, is *always* going to be limited by these two facts: FACT 1: *iOS is essentially brain dead for native Windows USB to be iOS on Windows USB, nor is it ever going to be iOS on FTP. >> if we're to be adults about this discussion ... I wish to be clear >> that this thread was never intended to be about FTP. > > then why did you mention it? You can play your silly childish games nospam, where the adults will have to ponder these very potent cogent facts: 1. iOS is brain dead when it comes to r/w USB transfers with native Windows 2. iOS is less brain dead - but still brain dead - for FTP file transfers Most of the Linux people responding (e.g., Carlos & Jason) appear to be ignorant of this fact - but I know you're well aware of the astoundingly huge limitations of iOS. Hence, since iOS is always the limiting factor when designing a cross-platform read/write file-transfer stystem, the *only* mechanism that works at all - is the one I propose. Tell me ... nospam ... how does your vaunted FTP file system work when the FTP server you're putting on iOS can't even *access* the files that USB can access? > it should be clear that you're trolling, again. It should be clear that I'm proposing a workable system, that works as well for iOS as it does for Android, and which utilizes native Ubuntu simply because native Windows is not as powerful as is native Ubuntu on accessing foreign file systems. Those are facts that *adults* will comprehend. Hence, it's not at all surprising that you can't comprehend those facts. *Just because you don't like facts, doesn't make them not facts.* Back on topic, if *anyone* here knows of a *better* way to access *all* the visible files on both iOS and Android, any iOS or Android device (not just ones where you have an Apple ID on them, for example), both read and write, to all four file systems simultaneously (yes, Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS), then now is the time to prove you actually comprehend the topic. In summary: Q: What method do you propose for full r/w access to all visible files on all mobile devices, to and from native Windows, if you don't use this method? HINT: a. iOS is the limiting factor b. iOS is brain dead on Windows USB c. iOS is barely functional on FTP (compared to Linux USB)
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-14 22:07 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <140920182207400069%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #50671 |
In article <pnho2j$jfr$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: > > ftp doesn't have a 'typical speed'. it's whatever the network and > > devices support. > > The cross-platform limiting factor here is always going to be iOS. nope. the limiting factor is *you*, especially given your sheer lack of knowledge about networking.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 03:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnhsll$rai$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50674 |
On 14 Sep 2018 19:07:40 GMT, nospam wrote: > nope. the limiting factor is *you*, especially given your sheer lack of > knowledge about networking. Play your silly fifth grade childish games forever, nospam. You never tire of being purposefully unhelpful in every post. You appear to deprecate my networking ability, which is fine because this thread isn't about my networking ability. This thread is about networking. *Answer this question ... if you actually have an _adult_ brain!* Q: What free software do you propose we install (particularly on iOS) that will result in *better* (faster, easier, more powerful, etc.) read/write file-transfer to/from native Windows to/from any iOS/Android device, than the USB-to-Windows-via-Linux method I outlined in the original post. *I would _love_ if someone smarter than I, can answer _that_ question!!!*
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-14 23:55 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <140920182355529575%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #50678 |
In article <pnhsll$rai$1@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote: > You appear to deprecate my networking ability, which is fine because this > thread isn't about my networking ability. actually, it's about your network *inability*. > This thread is about networking. about which you know very little.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-15 04:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pni1v7$3rb$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50679 |
On 14 Sep 2018 20:55:52 GMT, nospam wrote: > actually, it's about your network *inability*. > >> This thread is about networking. > > about which you know very little. *You love to play your childish fifth-grade games, nospam.* This thread isn't, and never was about my networking skills. If someone on this ng is smarter than I am, I welcome a better solution. Since you're not an adult, you'll never comprehend that sentence. Still, the *adult* question here, for networking experts, is: Q: What free software do you propose we install (particularly on iOS) that will result in *better* (faster, easier, more powerful, etc.) read/write file-transfer to/from native Windows to/from any iOS/Android device, than the USB-to-Windows-via-Linux method I outlined in the original post. *I would _love_ if someone smarter than I, can answer _that_ question!!!* If nobody comes up with a better answer, then I'm not so dumb after all. :) HINT: You, nospam, will _never_ come up with *any* answer. You can't.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-15 12:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <slrnpppvld.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #50662 |
Arlen Holder wrote: > On 14 Sep 2018 15:47:36 GMT, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> I fail to see what is so fantastic or rare about that. > > Hi Carlos, > > Thanks for the adult question, where we've spoken a lot in the past so I > know you are generally reasonable. (See the speed question for you at the > end of this post.) > > *The biggest deal is that most people don't *know* of this clever method!* Having grown up with computers, I'm more surprised that anyone wouldn't know that thet can transfer between USB devices, especially given their belonging to the group "users of GNU/linux-based OSes". Maybe its just that kids are better at seeing obvious things. Like one time, I remember that someone needed me to print 1 copy of like 50 documents on their slow-for-the-era PC. - open directory - <CTRL>+A - right click menu -> print (let the printer do its thing) > [...] > For example, has anyone posited a *better* (e.g., faster?) method yet? > HINT: The answer is that there is likely no better USB method known to man. > If there was, someone would propose it, wouldn't they? Use USB3, and sufficiently fast USB slave devices. Bam, faster ;) > [...] > Here's the reverse question (rhetorical for you, Carlos, but not others): > Q: Is this statement true or false? > "The /Linux/ system disk is just another disk to /Windows/, > and transferring files over usb to a tablet is just normal > business of the day." Unless defaults have changed with the advent of WSL, false. Windows is (was) by default incapable of reading most standard filesystems used by GNU/Linux systems. Tablets / phones, of course, hide the filesystem behind their USB controller, and simply present themselves as "USB Mass Storage" or similar. So they have an extra layer of abstraction, similar to running samba server on a linux host. > [...] >> Now, 2 gigabytes per minute means 33 MB/second. As USB-2 can do >> 440Mbit/S, that is hardly surprising, providing the write speed of the >> target device is up to the task. If not, you are measuring the cache speed. > > Carlos ... let's learn more about speed! > > The 2GB/minute were my ad hoc results from this morning's effort. > > You're likely using far newer equipment than I am, since all my desktops > are about a decade old - so it would be nice to know what the *fastest > likely speeds are achievable on these two circumstances: > > What are reasonably attainable speeds on: > 1. USB on a more modern desktop to/from an iOS/Android mobile device. USB didn't work at all. Most likely a faulty cable or port on the phone. Port on the PC is fine, since USB mass storgge devices are shown without trouble. > 2. FTP/SMB/HTTP on those same (i/o limited?) devices SFTP to the same machine (phone on wifi, machine 1gbit ethernet), 1400 files (total 8.2GB) took about 2100 seconds (35 minutes), with an average transfer speed of 3.9 MB / second. Unfortunately, because it was 1400 * 4 MB files, the transfer started / stopped for every file, would've gone about half again as fast had it been a single file (see below). A 3.2 GB transfer to the phone took about 10 minutes. Ran at 6-6.25 MB/s over 1x1 [5 Ghz / 40MHz channel] 802.11n (48-50 mbit/sec over a medium that can on paper xfer at approx 150). Appears the wifi is the culprit here, as both the phone and the PC should be able to sustain higher xfer rates. That being said, since the on-hand USB cables don't work, wifi transfer is faster ;). Also, the wifi/sftp transfer has the benefits of not requiring me to go upstairs to the office to plug things in (or, at the moment, buy a new cable). Also works while I'm out of the house. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 09:12 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <150920180912194588%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #50681 |
In article <slrnpppvld.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net>, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote: > > That being said, since the on-hand USB cables don't work, wifi transfer > is faster ;). Also, the wifi/sftp transfer has the benefits of not > requiring me to go upstairs to the office to plug things in (or, at the > moment, buy a new cable). Also works while I'm out of the house. yep. wireless is the future.
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnkl22$e57$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50682 |
On 15 Sep 2018 15:31:09 GMT, nospam wrote:
>> Install libimobiledevice driver on Windows. A lot less to install, no
>> need to learn Linux.
>
> even that's not needed.
While nospam is a man-child who makes claims that he never backs up, what's
more interesting is that his entire belief system is completely imaginary!
*The imaginary Apple Apologist belief system has no room for actual facts*
Meanwhile, on the topic of installing libimobile device, by the way, here's
a copy of the tutorial I posted long ago on the Apple newsgroups by way of
example on libimobiledevice drivers.
****************************************************************************
How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable
Please improve so that all benefit from your efforts.
****************************************************************************
The purpose of this apnote is to test read/write access to non-jailbroken
iOS devices over USB cable using a dual-boot Windows10/Ubuntu18.04 PC.
The goal is read/write access to the iOS device's visible file system
to *both* Windows & Ubuntu, via the Linux file explorer & command line.
Note that the iTunes abomination will *never* be installed on these PCs!
Both Windows and Linux are *native* (i.e., zero additional software is
needed for full read/write access to the entire visible file system of
the iOS device. Everything is on the native operating system!)
============================================================================
Section I: Native Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop
============================================================================
0. Check what's installed natively when the iOS device is NOT connected:
a. Boot to Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios000.jpg>
b. Ensure ifuse and libimobiledevice-utils do not exist
$ which ifuse
(reports nothing)
$ which ideviceinfo
(reports nothing)
c. Note that libimobiledevice is installed, by default
$ sudo updateb
$ locate libimobiledevice
(reports stuff)
Apparently libimobiledevice is native, but not ifuse, nor are the
libimobiledevice-utils such as idevicepair & icevicesyslog, etc.
$ ifuse
Command 'ifuse' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install ifuse
$ ideviceinfo
Command 'ideviceinfo' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils
============================================================================
1. Plug in an iOS device either before or after Ubuntu 18.04 has booted:
a. When you plug in the iPad for the first time, the iPad will ask:
"Trust this computer?"
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg>
Note: You won't see this message again after the first time.
Note that when you plug into Windows, you get a different message:
"Allow this device to access photos and videos?"
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg>
b. Notice two new icons show up on the desktop:
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg>
- iPad [a digital SLR icon]
(DCIM, read only, no thumbs)
- Documents on myipad [a monitor & keyboard icon]
(private space of the "good" apps, read/write, no thumbs)
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios040.jpg>
c. Notice there is no Downloads yet
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios050.jpg>
d. Notice there are no thumbnails yet
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios060.jpg>
e. Notice you can only read from the DCIM directory tree.
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios070.jpg>
f. Notice you can write to the private space of the good apps
(Namely: Adobe Acrobat, Excel, FileExplorer, GarageBand,
iMovie, Keynote, MFExplorer, MinimaList, NewsTapLite, Numbers,
Pages, PowerPoint, QuickSupport, RManager, SMBManager, Topo Reader,
VLC, Voice Recorder, WiFi HD, Word)
<iosxxx>
g. Determine your iOS device 40-hex-character serial number:
$ dmesg|grep SerialNumber:
SerialNumber: 6ee7ab2fa479394be85da7cb4aefc5d8b11b6f82
<iosxxx>
Note:
Rightclick in the VLC directory & select "Open in Terminal".
$ pwd
/run/user/1000/gvfs/afc:hose=<40char>,port=3/org.videolan.vlc-ios
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios170.jpg>
Note: You can now copy any iOS device file over to Ubuntu or Windows.
Caveat: See addendum on Ubuntu mounting of Windows partitions below.
============================================================================
2. Determine the iOS name of the folders that you want read/write access
to:
a. Put your mouse cursor in "Documents on myipad" & press <Control+L>
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios080.jpg>
b. This reports the true path to the "Documents on myipad" folder:
afc://6ee7ab2fa479394be85da7cb4aefc5d8b11b6f82
afc://<40-hex-character-unique-serial-number>:3/
Note: If you put it in VLC you get
afc://6ee7ab2fa479394be85da7cb4aefc5d8b11b6f82:3/org.videolan.vlc-ios
c. Put your mouse cursor in DCIM and press control L
d. This reports the true path to the "DCIM" folder:
gphoto2://%5Busb%3A001,002%5D/DCIM
Note: If you put it in 101Apple you get
gphoto2://%5Busb%3A001,002%5D/DCIM/101APPLE
Note: You can now copy any iOS device file over to Ubuntu or Windows.
Caveat: See addendum on Ubuntu automounting of Windows partitions.
============================================================================
3. Enable write access to both the DCIM & Downloads folders (among others):
a. Remove the ":3/" and put it in the space that Control L was in.
afc://6ee7ab2fa479394be85da7cb4aefc5d8b11b6f82
b. Notice a *new* Desktop icon shows up, named "myipad".
c. Notice you now have read/writeaccess to DCIM & Downloads (plus
others).
Namely: Books,DCIM,Downloads,iMazing,iTunes_Control,MediaAnalysis,
PhotoData,Photos,PublicStaging,Purchases
d. Notice that the "iPad" mount is still read only (which doesn't
matter).
e. Notice that you have no thumbnails anywhere.
Note: Rightclick in the DCIM directory & select "Open in Terminal".
$ pwd
/run/user/1000/gvfs/gphoto2:hose=%5Busb%3A001%2C002%5D/DCIM
Note: You can now copy any iOS device file over to Ubuntu or Windows.
Caveat: See addendum on Ubuntu mounting of Windows partitions below.
============================================================================
Section II: Adding ifuse & libimobiledevice-info to Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop
NOTE: This is optional! Adding these only adds minor capabilities that
wasn't already in the native operating system commands above.
============================================================================
4. Install the ifuse iOS file system to run in the background on Ubuntu:
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios100.jpg>
a. Optionally, update and upgrade your system:
$ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios090.jpg>
b. Install the ifuse iOS file system on Ubuntu:
$ sudo apt install ifuse
c. Look at the ifuse help
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios110.jpg>
$ which ifuse
/usr/bin/ifuse
$ ifuse --help
Usage: ifuse MOUNTPOINT [OPTIONS]
Mount directories of an iOS device locally using fuse.
-o === mount options
-u === mount specific device by its 40-digit device UDID
-d === enable libimobiledevice communication debugging
-- root === mount root file system (jailbroken device required)
-- documents APPID === mount 'Documents' folder of identified app
-- container APPID === mount sandbox root of identified app
============================================================================
5. EXAMPLE 1: Mount the entire iOS visible file system on Ubuntu:
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios120.jpg>
a. Create a mount point directory for your iOS files
$ mkdir -p $HOME/data/iosfs
b. Access the iOS device via $HOME/data/iosfs
$ ifuse $HOME/data/iosfs
c. This immediately puts an "iosfs" icon on the Desktop.
d. Notice you have write access to the iOS Downloads & DCIM (& others).
Namely: Books,DCIM,Downloads,iMazing,iTunes_Control,MediaAnalysis,
PhotoData,Photos,PublicStaging,Purchases
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios130.jpg>
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios140.jpg>
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios150.jpg>
e. Notice you now have thumbnails.
f. Notice you have all the power of Linux, on your iOS device now.
To unmount:
$ fusermount -u $HOME/data/iosfs
============================================================================
6. EXAMPLE 2: Mount the iOS device by its unique 40-hex-character UDID:
a. Copy the serial number into your buffer
$ dmesg | grep SerialNumber:
b. Mount the iOS device by that serial number UDID
$ mkdir $HOME/data/ipad
$ ifuse $HOME/data/ipad -u 6ee7ab2fa479394be85da7cb4aefc5d8b11b6f82
c. This immediately puts an "iosfs" icon on the Desktop.
d. Notice you have write access to the iOS Downloads & DCIM (& others).
Namely: Books,DCIM,Downloads,iMazing,iTunes_Control,MediaAnalysis,
PhotoData,Photos,PublicStaging,Purchases
e. Notice you now have thumbnails.
f. Notice you have all the power of Linux, on your iOS device now.
To unmount:
$ fusermount -u $HOME/data/ipad
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7. EXAMPLE 3: Mount an iOS application's "documents" folder by its APPID:
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios160.jpg>
$ mkdir $HOME/data/vlc_documents
$ ifuse $HOME/data/vlc_documents --documents org.videolan.vlc-ios
This puts an icon named "vlc_documents" on your desktop, which is
read/write access, with thumbnails, to the iOS VLC documents directory.
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios180.jpg>
To unmount:
$ fusermount -u $HOME/data/vlc_documents
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8. Install libimobiledevice-utils:
$ sudo apt install libimobiledevice-utils
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9. EXAMPLE 4:
$ ideviceinfo -d
REPORTS copious information about that connected iOS device.
$ idevicesyslog
REPORTS the system log of the iOS device (extremely verbose output!).
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10. Please suggest further useful examples based on your experiences.
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Caveat:
If you leave Windows 10 at the default setting of fast startup,
then Ubuntu will mount the entire Windows file system as read only
(apparently because fast startup is a form of hibernation).
To automatically mount the entire Windows filesystem as read/write,
simply turn off fast startup in the Windows 10 settings:
Start > Settings > System > Power & sleep > Related settings
> Additional power settings > Choose what the power button does >
or (depending on your number of buttons)
> Additional power settings > Choose what the power buttons do >
> Change settings that are currently unavailable
Change from:
[x]Turn on fast startup (recommended)
This helps start your PC faster after shutdown. Restart isn't affected.
[x]Sleep (Show in Power menu.)
[_]Hibernate (Show in Power menu.)
[x]Hibernate (Show in Power menu.)
[x]Lock (Show in account picture menu.)
Change to:
[_]Turn on fast startup (recommended)
This helps start your PC faster after shutdown. Restart isn't affected.
[_]Sleep (Show in Power menu.)
[_]Hibernate (Show in Power menu.)
[_]Hibernate (Show in Power menu.)
[_]Lock (Show in account picture menu.)
And then press the "Save changes" button.
============================================================================
============================================================================
sms
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 04:09 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnkl2c$e5d$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50682 |
On 15 Sep 2018 15:24:18 GMT, joe wrote: > Install libimobiledevice driver on Windows. A lot less to install, no > need to learn Linux. We have covered libimobiledevice on Windows 10 many times in the past https://www.libimobiledevice.org/ http://docs.quamotion.mobi/en/latest/imobiledevice/download.html Where it fell flat every time on full read/write access to the entire visible file system of iOS over USB on otherwise-native Windows 10. It's hard to look up Windows 10 threads because Google doesn't archive them in an easily searched manner, but here's an iphone newsgroup tutorial I authored on the subject How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IFC52JXBQ1c While that works fine for Linux, we have entire threads on why that doesn't work for read & write access to the entire visible file system of the iOS device on Windows. Unless you know something nobody else seems to know, you're going to have to show us that you have installed libimobiledevice on an otherwise native Windows 10 and that alone provides full read/write access to the entire visible iOS file system on otherwise-native Windows. HINT: Installing the iTunes abomination doesn't count, not the least of which reasons being that Apple themselves says that it doesn't support the real world (Apple actually says the real world is "not supported").
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 21:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnmitt$7g0$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50682 |
On 16 Sep 2018 01:40:12 GMT, Piet wrote: > And useless for Android. Doesn't 'imobile' say enough? In a way, what "joe" suggested, makes sense on the surface, since an apple-compatibile device driver is what gives Linux the ability to treat an iOS device as a USB device - so I treated joe like an adult in my prior response. While the iTunes abomination won't easily install on Linux, there is a well-known trick to denuding the iTunes abomination on Windows, which is to install *just* the necessary device drivers, and not the hundreds of megabytes of functionality-limiting Apple bloatware. Given that the iTunes abomination is the canonical example of horrendous bloatware, luckily those paring down tutorials abound on the net. The unofficial guide to installing iTunes 10 without bloatware <https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-unofficial-guide-to-installing-itunes-10-without-bloatware/> Still, to my knowledge, nobody has gotten the idevice drivers to provide both read and write access to the entire visible file system of the iOS device, as far as I know (from past discussions on this topic). Does joe know something the rest of us don't know?
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 14:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnj3jl$lau$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50681 |
On 15 Sep 2018 12:44:29 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote: > Having grown up with computers, I'm more surprised that anyone wouldn't > know that thet can transfer between USB devices, especially given their > belonging to the group "users of GNU/linux-based OSes". (This is only going to a.o.l, as you requested.) THANK YOU for your speed tests! (See bottom of this message!) (It's nice to deal with adults!) I think you are astute - but I think you're "too smart" in a way. By that, I mean you may give people too much credit, since, it's a fact that the cross-platform stumbling block is iOS, not Android so all the work is in getting it to work read and write for the entire visible file system. On Android, that's trivial. It's not trivial on iOS. Hence the tricks that I spoke about (which nobody yet has improved upon but I wish they would since I'm not the smartest guy on the planet). How many people know that iOS is completely brain dead on USB with native Windows for read and write file transfer (it's impossible, in fact)? You know that. I know that. But a lot of people don't know that. So, how many people *know* that they can surmount this brain dead situation simply by booting to Linux instead of to Windows? You know that. I know that. But a lot of people don't know that. Then, in addition, how many people know that Linux reads Windows file systems just fine (for the most part) while Windows does NOT read Linux file systems at all (for the most part). You know that. I know that. But a lot of people don't know that. Hence, the "trick" is knowing two very important facts: 1. Linux can read Windows' disks, and, 2. iOS is completely brain dead on native Windows but not Linux If people know of a better trick to get read and write access to the entire visible file system of iOS, then I'm all ears (but it's not gonna be FTP and anyone who says that it is FTP hasn't actually done it, IMHO). > Maybe its just that kids are better at seeing obvious things. Like one > time, I remember that someone needed me to print 1 copy of like 50 > documents on their slow-for-the-era PC. As I said, it's not obvious to everyone that the trick to obtain full read and write access to iOS onto native Windows is through Linux. While that trick is intuitive to you ... That trick is not intuitive to everyone ... is it? > Use USB3, and sufficiently fast USB slave devices. Bam, faster ;) While I appreciate the suggestion, what I love are real facts. I've asked twice already (of Carlos, and of Jason). Nobody has answered yet the critical question of how fast can we realistically expect a mobile device USB transfer to be? Which device or protocol is the limiting factor when we're talking iOS and Android devices which aren't likely optimized for USB speeds, are they? Does anyone have actual facts on actual speeds? (I don't ... so that's why I ask.) > Unless defaults have changed with the advent of WSL, false. Windows is > (was) by default incapable of reading most standard filesystems used by > GNU/Linux systems. Exactly. You know the critical stumbling block is that native Windows can not write or even read the full visible file system of iOS ... so you know the trick that Linux can read a Windows system disk - but Windows can't read a Linux system disk. That's exactly why the method I proposed (which came from a.o.l in the first place) is so deviously clever! It's too simple! Yet, few people *know* about it. Hence my FYI. Still, it would be _great_ if a.o.l people could *improve* on the process where it's frustating to have to deal with morons like nospam who make all sorts of bogus claims about how bad the solution is - while never once coming up with any workable solution on their own. Even Jason and Carlos don't seem to understand, I think, why FTP is a joke. (Maybe the do understand why, but they haven't said that they do.) > Tablets / phones, of course, hide the filesystem behind their USB > controller, and simply present themselves as "USB Mass Storage" or > similar. So they have an extra layer of abstraction, similar to running > samba server on a linux host. That "extra layer of abstraction" is no problem on Android, but on iOS, it's deadly. In fact, without Linux, I don't know of a single way (other than jailbreaking) to read/write access the entire visible file system on a desktop of iOS. I tried SMB, by the say (aka smbclient/samba), but it turns out that if you don't root Android, SMB is basically brain dead on Android too. So what I tried was: - FTP (it doesn't work on iOS) - SMB (it doesn't work on iOS nor Android) - HTTP (it doesn't work on iOS) - USB (it doesn't work on iOS) - Linux USB (it works on both iOS and Android) It took *years* to come up to this solution, so when people say it's "obvious", I have to take exception to that. Maybe I'm wrong, but is it really *obvious* to all of you that the *only* way on earth known to man to get full read/write access to the entire visible iOS filesystem to native Windows - is through Linux? > USB didn't work at all. Most likely a faulty cable or port on the > phone. Port on the PC is fine, since USB mass storgge devices are shown > without trouble. *THANK YOU* for trying that speed test! The speed is everything! So it's great that you at least tried! THANK YOU! I'm not sure what you know, but I will repeat the sad fact that USB on iOS is basically a non starter for read and write access on native Windows for the entire iOS visible file system. It works fine on native Ubuntu 18.04 - but not on native Windows 10. The best speeds I can attain, admittedly on an old desktop, are 2GB per minute where the limiting fact could very well be the iOS or Android device. > SFTP to the same machine (phone on wifi, machine 1gbit ethernet), 1400 > files (total 8.2GB) took about 2100 seconds (35 minutes), with an > average transfer speed of 3.9 MB / second. Unfortunately, because it > was 1400 * 4 MB files, the transfer started / stopped for every file, > would've gone about half again as fast had it been a single file (see > below). Megabyte math is always tricky but that seems to add up to about 234 megabytes per minute, which is a good number to use if that's what it comes down to. If we stick with gigabytes per minute as the standard test size (although I realize size and number of files matters greatly), that's about this: - My test of USB = 2GB/minute - Your test of FTP = 0.2GB/minute So that one comparison, admittedly by two people on different data and equipment, shows FTP to be about ten times slower than USB. Does that sound about right? > A 3.2 GB transfer to the phone took about 10 minutes. Ran at 6-6.25 > MB/s over 1x1 [5 Ghz / 40MHz channel] 802.11n (48-50 mbit/sec over a > medium that can on paper xfer at approx 150). Thanks for that second test, which, if my 2GB/minute for USB is trustworthy, that makes the WiFi transfer only 5 times slower than USB (and not ten times slower). > Appears the wifi is the culprit here, as both the phone and the PC > should be able to sustain higher xfer rates. THIS IS A KEY POINT. In the real world, we never get the advertised transfer rates (IMHO). That's why I'm asking for real-world data. Do you think the limiting factor is the WiFI or the phone itself? > That being said, since the on-hand USB cables don't work, wifi transfer > is faster ;). Your humor is good. :) I agree with that concept that the best method is the one that works. > Also, the wifi/sftp transfer has the benefits of not > requiring me to go upstairs to the office to plug things in (or, at the > moment, buy a new cable). Also works while I'm out of the house. I do both WiFi transfer and USB transfer, where I find the WiFi transfer orders of magnitude *slower* than the USB transfer. They *both* have their place: - USB => Fast, simple, virtually unlimited for both iOS and Android - FTP => Slower, extremely limited for iOS But remember, USB to/from native Windows has to be done from Linux! (That's the trick.)
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 15:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <slrnppq93k.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #50683 |
Arlen Holder wrote: > On 15 Sep 2018 12:44:29 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote: > [...] >> Use USB3, and sufficiently fast USB slave devices. Bam, faster ;) > > While I appreciate the suggestion, what I love are real facts. > I've asked twice already (of Carlos, and of Jason). It was just a tongue-in-cheek response. > Nobody has answered yet the critical question of how fast can we > realistically expect a mobile device USB transfer to be? Depends on the device, really. In my case, "zero". Most modern phones (USB2/3 compliant) are supposedly snappy. It has less to do with the CPU and more to do with the USB controller onboard. > [...] > It's too simple! > Yet, few people *know* about it. > > Hence my FYI. Yeh, I stumbled across your stuff on a.o.l, hence the somewhat "we know already!" type response. Although checking the parent postings, perhaps the windows groups don't know in general (but then, I would argue it is on the poster to remove alt.os.linux from the discussion, as it is not [no longer?] relevant to the group). > Still, it would be _great_ if a.o.l people could *improve* on the process > where it's frustating to have to deal with morons like nospam who make all > sorts of bogus claims about how bad the solution is - while never once > coming up with any workable solution on their own. The standard response of "format and upgrade to Linux" still applies :). As for trolls (of which I am not entirely sure nospam is one, or at least is /always/ one), welcome to Usenet. > > Even Jason and Carlos don't seem to understand, I think, why FTP is a joke. > (Maybe the do understand why, but they haven't said that they do.) FTP is a joke, simply because it is FTP. But that's been the case for a good long while now. Personally, I like either using my owncloud instance on the phone (via a browser), as (S)FTP clients on android seem to be a bit touch and go. I didn't bother testing it, as it has the same limitations as the FTP client I use (i.e. one file at a time), and I don't have any files that surpass 50MB sitting on it. > >> Tablets / phones, of course, hide the filesystem behind their USB >> controller, and simply present themselves as "USB Mass Storage" or >> similar. So they have an extra layer of abstraction, similar to running >> samba server on a linux host. > > That "extra layer of abstraction" is no problem on Android, but on iOS, > it's deadly. Well, Apple is definitely "you play in our walled garden, or you go away". I haven't used any of their kit since one of the first couple generations of iPod ... and that was only because they were the only *good* music player at the time, although when SanDisk had their little thing that you could plug a Cruzer Micro into, I loved that player. > > I tried SMB, by the say (aka smbclient/samba), but it turns out that if you > don't root Android, SMB is basically brain dead on Android too. SMB is basically braindead everywhere :) > > So what I tried was: > - FTP (it doesn't work on iOS) Pretty sure iOS can connect to FTP *servers* still (unless apple fubar'd that) > - SMB (it doesn't work on iOS nor Android) > - HTTP (it doesn't work on iOS) iOS can definitely use http - you just have to have something like an owncloud / nextcloud (etc.) instance, rather than "pure" http via curl or the like. > - USB (it doesn't work on iOS) > - Linux USB (it works on both iOS and Android) > > It took *years* to come up to this solution, so when people say it's > "obvious", I have to take exception to that. Benefit of youth, I guess. Kids see "obvious" solutions to things that adults tend to be too locked-in thinking wise to notice. But then again, the whole usecase is a bit edge / corner, so even there some of the "obviousness" is perhaps hindsight on the part of responders. > > Maybe I'm wrong, but is it really *obvious* to all of you that the *only* > way on earth known to man to get full read/write access to the entire > visible iOS filesystem to native Windows - is through Linux? It's obvious that iOS and Windows are both bad in their own right, so using both in conjunction is bad^2. > >> SFTP to the same machine (phone on wifi, machine 1gbit ethernet), 1400 >> files (total 8.2GB) took about 2100 seconds (35 minutes), with an >> average transfer speed of 3.9 MB / second. Unfortunately, because it >> was 1400 * 4 MB files, the transfer started / stopped for every file, >> would've gone about half again as fast had it been a single file (see >> below). > > Megabyte math is always tricky but that seems to add up to about 234 > megabytes per minute, which is a good number to use if that's what it comes > down to. Somewhere around there yes. However, note that the nature of the transfer was "individual files", which added latency as they were sent serially, with a stop/start in between each file. > [...] >> A 3.2 GB transfer to the phone took about 10 minutes. Ran at 6-6.25 >> MB/s over 1x1 [5 Ghz / 40MHz channel] 802.11n (48-50 mbit/sec over a >> medium that can on paper xfer at approx 150). > > Thanks for that second test, which, if my 2GB/minute for USB is > trustworthy, that makes the WiFi transfer only 5 times slower than USB (and > not ten times slower). Oops, I typo'd that -- the PHY rate of 1x1 802.11n at 40 MHz is 150 mbps, with on-paper throughput approaching 75 mbps. Somewhat - note though that wifi transfers can vary wildly, simply due to usage of the spectrum, as it is a shared medium. Had the phone been connected to my wireless network with 802.11ac, given the same settings (40 MHz channel, 1x1), the PHY rate would've been 200 mbps (an increase of 33%), with an expected on-paper throughput of up to 120 mbps (15 MB/sec) -- or a little more than double the throughput. If we were to use our (approximate) 2/3 result (50 mbps is 2/3 of 75), we would've transferred that 3.2 GB file at approximately 10 MB/sec (600 MB/min). Note, that this is of course "napkin math", and again, the real world will make a mess of things. > >> Appears the wifi is the culprit here, as both the phone and the PC >> should be able to sustain higher xfer rates. > > THIS IS A KEY POINT. > In the real world, we never get the advertised transfer rates (IMHO). We do, it's just that wifi PHY ratings combine the transmit and receive throughput in order for bigger numbers on the box. Realistically, a unidirectional transfer will (for pre-802.11ac wifi) top out at around 50% of the number. For example, if you have "802.11n" 300mbps on the box, you'll top out at 150mbps on a clean channel, with one (1) active client. Generally, if you have a handful of clients (such as at here), you'll get anywhere from about 2/3 to 7/8 of that on-paper unidirectional throughput. 802.11ac includes even more black magic, resulting in an on-paper unidirectional speed being closer to 65% of the "on the box" speed. Again, assuming a single active client. > [...] >> Also, the wifi/sftp transfer has the benefits of not >> requiring me to go upstairs to the office to plug things in (or, at the >> moment, buy a new cable). Also works while I'm out of the house. > > I do both WiFi transfer and USB transfer, where I find the WiFi transfer > orders of magnitude *slower* than the USB transfer. The trouble with wifi is that phones are only just now starting to be non-rubbish in terms of tranceivers. So, you have a sweet new phone with ... a 1x1 antenna (using 40 MHz of spectrum, that's only 150 mbps PHY on 802.11n / 200 mbps PHY on 802.11ac), as opposed to 2x2 antennas which'll do 300 / 400. And that's not even considering that 802.11ac can do use 80 or even 160 MHz of spectrum (433 or 866 mbps PHY with a 1x1 radio; or 866/1733 mbps PHY with 2x2), or that high end 802.11ac cards may be 3x3 (600, 1300 mbps / 160 MHz not supported apparently), or with newer "wave2" coming out, 4x4 (800, 1733, or 3466 mbps). NOTE -> I'm only looking at 40/80/160 MHz usage of spectrum, as 802.11ac doesn't support "MCS9" (max data rate) with 20 MHz spectrum usage, so that'd kind of make a mess of things. Now USB 3.x on the other hand, yeah, that's an order of magnitude increase over either of them for a phone (5gbps) -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 04:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Malware alert? |
| Message-ID | <pnkngf$hbj$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #50684 |
On 15 Sep 2018 15:25:41 GMT, Dan Purgert wrote: > Yeh, I stumbled across your stuff on a.o.l, hence the somewhat "we know > already!" type response. Although checking the parent postings, perhaps > the windows groups don't know in general (but then, I would argue it is > on the poster to remove alt.os.linux from the discussion, as it is not > [no longer?] relevant to the group). All I'm trying to do is two adult things, for the good of the people. 1. Disseminate what works for everyone for free on all the platforms 2. Ask if you have something better so that I learn from you > The standard response of "format and upgrade to Linux" still applies :). > As for trolls (of which I am not entirely sure nospam is one, or at > least is /always/ one), welcome to Usenet. I've been on Usenet for decades. Very many thousands of threads - almost all adding value. I can't even count the tutorials I've written - many thousands. My use model is the FAQ model - not the chitchat model most people use. I confront trolls in threads I author. They're cowardly bullies. If you don't know nospam, you don't know Apple groups. Over the decades, Apple groups are quite different from Linux groups. I've covered them in detail in many threads. Suffice to say I know them well. Their belief system is a child-like mix of marketing & imagination. > FTP is a joke, simply because it is FTP. But that's been the case for a > good long while now. Agreed. It's even worse on iOS, sadly. So anyone who posits FTP as a "solution", doesn't understand that. > Personally, I like either using my owncloud instance on the phone (via a > browser), as (S)FTP clients on android seem to be a bit touch and go. I > didn't bother testing it, as it has the same limitations as the FTP > client I use (i.e. one file at a time), and I don't have any files that > surpass 50MB sitting on it. If we exclude iOS, FTP works ok (IMHO on Android. The worst part of FTP on Windows is that Window is flaky (IMHO) when you reconnect frequently using the native Windows File Explorer. I have entire threads on that but I haven't narrowed down why. The main workaround, currently, is to use a combination of FileZilla and winscp, but that's really a topic for the Windows groups so I don't belabor it here on a.o.l. > Well, Apple is definitely "you play in our walled garden, or you go > away". I fight that attitude but I do agree that Apple clearly says the real world (aka other systems, like Linux), are "not supported". As one example, Apple provided zero support when from iOS 7.0.0 to iOS 7.0.1 all hell broke loose with USB connections to Linux (ask me how I know). > I haven't used any of their kit since one of the first couple > generations of iPod ... and that was only because they were the only > *good* music player at the time, although when SanDisk had their little > thing that you could plug a Cruzer Micro into, I loved that player. I solved all those problems with iPods using the last known good version of SharePod freeware, which still works just fine. If you can get a hold of the 2.x version, or even the less useful 3.x version (which required .NET Framework), you will have complete freedom to plug in any iPod on the planet over USB to any Windows machine on the planet (.NET Framework needed for the 3.x version) and copy any MP3 file from any of those ipods to anywhere else. With that SharePod software, which was an early version of "portable software", you didn't have to put anything on Windows. You never needed the iTunes abomination except to initialize the iPod, and even that one-time requirement per iPod, if you wanted to try, you could get around with third-party initialization software. >> I tried SMB, by the say (aka smbclient/samba), but it turns out that if you >> don't root Android, SMB is basically brain dead on Android too. > > SMB is basically braindead everywhere :) In the past, I had found the smbclient and samba server, along with CAP, useful to tie together Macs, Windows, and SunOS/Solaris machines. What's nice about SMB is that it's the native way to talk to Windows, and it's well honed on Linux. It's Android and iOS that don't work well with SMB, where on Android you have to jailbreak (effectively) and on iOS, well, iOS is always brain dead unless you jailbreak. > Pretty sure iOS can connect to FTP *servers* still (unless apple fubar'd > that) That's not the problem as the FTP server is running on the mobile device. The problem is that Apple doesn't let it access the file system. > iOS can definitely use http - you just have to have something like an > owncloud / nextcloud (etc.) instance, rather than "pure" http via curl > or the like. That's not the problem as the HTTP server is running on the mobile device. The problem is that Apple doesn't let it access the file system. > Benefit of youth, I guess. Kids see "obvious" solutions to things that > adults tend to be too locked-in thinking wise to notice. But then again, > the whole usecase is a bit edge / corner, so even there some of the > "obviousness" is perhaps hindsight on the part of responders. I don't think most people understand the genius of this solution. Nobody, for example, on this planet, can propose a better one (IMHO). Ample proof of that is that the entire thread added zero technical value over the original post. I repeat: Not a single subsequent post after the original post, added any value to the topic. It's all in the original post. Nobody knows more than I do, unfortunately, and that's sad because i don't know much and I never said I did. It's people who *think* they know a lot who waste everyone's time, simply because none of the respondents added any value whatsoever to the original post. That includes everything you and I are saying now. I welcome improvements - but nobody has them. > It's obvious that iOS and Windows are both bad in their own right, so > using both in conjunction is bad^2. Fact is that mobile devices exist along with desktops existing. Fact is that data transfer between mobile devices & desktops is needed. Fact is, that I perform read/write access to their visible file system to Windows through Linux over USB all the time. All I was doing in this thread was two things: 1. Letting others have that same power, and, 2. Asking if anyone has a better method. So far, nobody has ever come up with a better method. Hence, I leaned nothing from this thread. But at least others learned to do what I can do. So some good came of the thread. > Had the phone been connected to my wireless network with 802.11ac, given > the same settings (40 MHz channel, 1x1), the PHY rate would've been 200 > mbps (an increase of 33%), with an expected on-paper throughput of up to > 120 mbps (15 MB/sec) -- or a little more than double the throughput. This is useful information. My routers are old as I'm not on ac yet. > If we were to use our (approximate) 2/3 result (50 mbps is 2/3 of 75), > we would've transferred that 3.2 GB file at approximately 10 MB/sec (600 > MB/min). Note, that this is of course "napkin math", and again, the real > world will make a mess of things. The main goal would be simply to list the realistic speeds of USB versus WiFi over FTP to any Android/iOS mobile device. Those are the two most common scenarios. > Now USB 3.x on the other hand, yeah, that's an order of magnitude > increase over either of them for a phone (5gbps) That's an important point!
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