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| From | mausg@mail.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! |
| Date | 2015-12-13 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn6ql2u.19d.mausg@smaus.org> (permalink) |
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On 2015-12-13, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 13/12/2015 04:55, Osmium wrote: >> "Andrew Swallow" wrrote: >> >>> On 12/12/2015 20:14, Quadibloc wrote: >>>> On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:31:26 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> The communists were liars. They promised equality but practised an >>> aristocratic system. 'Animal Farm' was showing this and the excuses >>> made when they were caught. >> >> Are you sure aristocrat is the word you want? I thought aristocrats were >> such because of inherited genes? Who was Stalin's father? Kruschev's? >> Gorbachev's? >> >> I started _Animal Farm_ but never finished it, I think my expectations >> were too high. > > I do mean aristocratic. > > First a similar hierarchy was imposed - with commissar replacing duke > and factory director replacing lord of the manor. Those people got > similar privileges and luxuries based on rank. > > Second it is inherited. If you look around China and Russia you will > find lots of officials who are grandchildren of the 'communist' > officials who gained power after the revolution. > > Most of the first generation of top communist officials turn out to have > been middle class. With occupations like lawyer, priest and scholar. The > revolution was a method of promotion. Familys that have fallen in `class' are a fertile ground for revolutionaries, the `lumpenproletariate' vent their frustrations in family of social group. China are following their own path, as opposed to Russia, the Chinese anti- corruption drive at the moment is catching VeryImportantPeople. Contrast to the UK-US answer, specially in the UK, where it seems to be a mark of status that one can `walk' even with seeming good evidence of fraud. Its amazing that many people regard Russia still as a Socialist country, in an argument split, leftists still regard Russia as `good'. -- greymaus . . ...
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Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 23:09 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 14:56 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:10 -0800
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Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-12 04:51 +0000
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Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 00:05 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 21:48 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:34 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-12 08:38 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:47 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-12 18:41 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:33 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-13 23:48 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 19:39 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:12 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:54 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-14 09:19 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-14 14:31 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-14 19:05 -0400
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-12 11:31 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:52 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:59 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 11:50 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-12 12:14 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 21:37 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:37 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-12 22:55 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 00:02 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:24 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-13 13:59 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-14 06:09 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 10:18 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 11:20 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 18:41 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-13 11:35 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:17 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:58 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:01 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:36 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-11 14:31 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:11 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-10 15:49 -0400
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-12-10 17:07 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-10 20:31 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-11 13:35 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:14 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-11 13:48 -0500
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:07 -0600
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-12-10 12:01 -0800
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-12-10 23:22 +0000
Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-11 11:01 +0000
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