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| From | Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc, alt.privacy |
| Subject | Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles |
| Date | 2015-06-13 14:55 +0000 |
| Organization | is an alien concept |
| Message-ID | <slrnmnoh2e.qit.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <mlf90u$e36$1@solani.org> <871thgvjzx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 2015-06-12, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > >> [Bruce Schneier] has been remarkably consistent about his main point: >> >> We have one infrastructure. We can't choose a world where the US gets >> to spy and the Chinese don't. We get to choose a world where everyone >> can spy, or a world where no one can spy. We can be secure from >> everyone, or vulnerable to anyone. > > For the governments of the world, the choice is obvious: spy on > everyone. The nukes will keep foreign adversaries at bay. For the > local citizenry, nukes are ineffective so you need to be able to spy. > > > Marko How long before some government or other decrees that not carrying a mobile phone handset, switched on, is 'suspect' and then a little later 'illegal'? I'm sure that those who most need to know such things are already familiar with the reasons and timing for leaving their mobile phone on the bus or letting it fall off a bridge or be stolen. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~
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[CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-12 18:39 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-12 21:50 +0300
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:55 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-06-13 19:19 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-13 21:49 +0000
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