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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc, alt.privacy |
| Subject | Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles |
| Date | 2015-06-12 21:50 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <871thgvjzx.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (permalink) |
| References | <mlf90u$e36$1@solani.org> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
> [Bruce Schneier] has been remarkably consistent about his main point: > > We have one infrastructure. We can't choose a world where the US gets > to spy and the Chinese don't. We get to choose a world where everyone > can spy, or a world where no one can spy. We can be secure from > everyone, or vulnerable to anyone. For the governments of the world, the choice is obvious: spy on everyone. The nukes will keep foreign adversaries at bay. For the local citizenry, nukes are ineffective so you need to be able to spy. Marko
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[CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-12 18:39 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-06-12 21:50 +0300
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:55 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-06-13 19:19 +0000
Re: [CM] more on Stingray: 2 articles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-13 21:49 +0000
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