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Re: Mac sales in mild decline

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From Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Subject Re: Mac sales in mild decline
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Date 2014-04-26 09:02 -0500

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:22:50 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> 
wrote:
> In article <slrnllmfej.1gn.timmcn@sugaree.local>, Tim McNamara
><timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:20:21 -0400, Alan Browne 
>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > With today's earnings report, the Mac line looks to be in a mild 
>> > decline that has gone on now for the past 2 years.  While there are 
>> > quarterly peaks and valleys, looking at the data with a 4 quarter 
>> > average shows a continuous decline v. the 2010-2012 period.
>> 
>> Along with desktops and laptops as a whole.  I know people with a 
>> tablet or smartphone who have not replaced the laptop they no longer 
>> use in several years.  The laptop market will continue to fade 
>> slowly, teh desktop market will continue to fade steeply and these 
>> two will become niches (probably already are).
>
> Most people have never really needed a computer as such. They want to 
> be able to do simple tasks like send a few emails, visit a few 
> websites, type up the occasional letter, etc. That's why a relatively 
> cheap and easy to use tablet has become so popular.
>
> It's in the business world with real work being done where computers 
> will stay for some time yet, but even then it will only be for those 
> who do the real work while managers play on their tablets.

Some jobs will require that kind of computing power, but most will be 
done on tablets via the cloud.  My own job is trending in that direction 
technologically as we install an EHR (which will have upsides and more 
than a few significant downsides), all of which will be "in the cloud."

>> Smartphones and tablets will grow and level off, to be replaced when 
>> Google Glass type products take over the marketplace, to themselves 
>> be replaced when implantable computing takes over.
>
> Google Glass will never "take off". It's only nerds and geeks who want 
> them because they think they're "cool" ... in reality they're useless 
> rubbish that make people wearing them look incredibly stupid. Google 
> is already working on a contact lens device instead, but that's likely 
> to be just as unpopular (except perhaps with those silly enough to 
> already poke things into their eyes).
>
> Even the current watch / bracelet devices look incredibly silly, as 
> did the old Casio Calculator watches (and still do - last time I lookd 
> Casio stil made them).

Google Glass as it exists now is not the future, but points the way to 
the future: wearable, heads-up displays that are constantly with us.  
Once social media and interpersonal connectibility arrives (e.g., the 
killer app) it will take off and disrupt smartphones and tablets.  The 
key thing will be subtle control- being able to use it without obviously 
using it.

I agree about the current crop of smartwatches.  They are not the 
future, they are a cul de sac on the road to the future.  The best 
looking options were the various watchbands that converted an iPod Nano 
to a wrst contraption.

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Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 18:20 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 18:33 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 19:27 -0400
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-24 01:01 +0000
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 21:57 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 16:30 +1200
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 00:05 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 15:54 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:27 +0000
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 19:20 -0400
              Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-28 05:41 +0000
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 12:39 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-04-27 11:15 +1200
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 19:21 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-26 19:20 -0400
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 20:35 -0400
              Re: Mac sales in mild decline Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-04-27 02:28 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 10:54 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-28 09:03 +1200
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-04-28 11:29 +0100
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 09:14 +1200
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 16:10 +1200
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-24 16:16 -0700
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 16:13 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-25 15:05 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-25 00:28 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-25 18:11 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 16:00 -0400
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Rob Noland <not@this.com> - 2014-04-25 20:16 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-25 20:54 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 09:59 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-23 16:33 -0700
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 20:00 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-04-23 21:25 -0700
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 18:25 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 12:15 -0700
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 18:04 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 15:09 -0700
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 18:32 -0400
              Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 17:33 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-24 21:01 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-04-24 21:31 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 21:48 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-25 04:42 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-26 10:23 +1200
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:35 +0000
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 16:07 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-24 00:59 +0000
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-04-25 14:55 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 15:53 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 22:03 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-24 02:13 +0000
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-04-25 14:58 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-26 10:26 +1200
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-04-26 13:56 -0400
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-27 10:13 +1200
              Re: Mac sales in mild decline John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-04-27 10:09 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-27 10:31 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 10:55 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:21 +0000
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 17:42 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 17:46 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:19 +0000
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 17:45 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-28 05:38 +0000
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-04-27 11:15 +1200
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-26 19:20 -0400
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-27 10:12 -0500
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 11:09 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 18:38 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-27 10:10 -0500
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 16:34 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 00:48 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 18:30 +1200
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-26 00:02 -0500
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-26 18:22 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-04-26 09:02 -0500
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 09:41 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Doc O'Leary <droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2014-04-26 11:43 -0500
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 13:05 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:36 +0000
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 20:41 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-28 05:44 +0000
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-28 16:40 -0400

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