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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Mac sales in mild decline |
| Date | 2014-04-25 15:05 +1200 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <250420141505029183%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink) |
| References | <FqedndkBPJE4ocXOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com> <53583fca$0$1283$c3e8da3$50776f34@news.astraweb.com> |
In article <53583fca$0$1283$c3e8da3$50776f34@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-23 18:20, Alan Browne wrote:
> >
> > With today's earnings report, the Mac line looks to be in a mild decline
> > that has gone on now for the past 2 years. While there are quarterly
> > peaks and valleys, looking at the data with a 4 quarter average shows a
> > continuous decline v. the 2010-2012 period.
>
> What people (and the Wall Street Casino Analysts) forget is that
> computers have essentially stopped evolving from the point of view of
> what you can do with them.
It doesn't say above where Alan Browne got that know-nothing garbage
report from (probably the usual "Apple is doomed" moronic blogger
"journalists"), but this is pretty much the complete opposite from
MacWorld UK ...
Apple defies PC downturn again, boosts Mac sales
------------------------------------------------
Apple on Wednesday said it sold 4.1 million Macs in the
March quarter, growing sales during a period when the
personal computer industry overall continued to contract.
The Cupertino, Calif. company sold 5% more Macs in the
quarter than the same stretch the year before, with
revenue from its oldest line accounting for 12% of the
company's total sales of $45.6 billion.
"Macs continue to be very consistent, with a very
consistent market," said Carolina Milanesi, chief of
research at Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, in an interview
after Apple's earnings call concluded.
The consistency Milanesi spoke of was Apple's ability
to regularly beat the industry average for personal
computer sales growth. In the March quarter, global
shipments of PCs decreased by 4%, according to
researcher IDC. Rival Gartner pegged the contraction
at about 2%.
"It's a good business for them," said Van Baker, an
analyst with Gartner. "But remember, Apple chooses to
compete only at the high end of the market, so it's
kind of self-regulating."
By that he meant that the Mac, unlike the bulk of
personal computers, is not as susceptible to the whims
of price wars, or the waning and waxing of economies.
And because it was not really forced to compete on
price, Apple did not have to pare margins to the bone
to sell systems, as have most other OEMs (original
equipment manufacturers).
"Plus, the Mac helps them sell other products and
sustains their image in the market because they can
put the latest technology in their machines," Baker
added.
The ASP, or average selling price, of the Mac line
actually increased 2% quarter-over-quarter, climbing
from $1,322 to $1,344. Even so, the March 2014
quarter's ASP was down nearly 3% year-over-year.
When graphed over a long period -- from 2008 on -- the
Mac's ASP looks quite stable, showing that Apple has
been able both to sustain modest growth while not
retreating from its premium brand philosophy.
The 4.1 million Macs sold last quarter were a March
quarter record for the company. If Gartner and IDC
were accurate in their estimates of personal
computers shipped worldwide, Macs accounted for
between 5.3% and 5.6% of the total.
The two research firms have predicted that the
long-term contraction of the PC industry -- eight
quarters, or two years, so far -- will continue into
the foreseeable future. For instance, IDC forecast
last month that total shipments will shrink by 6%
this year, and volumes will remain under the
300-million mark through 2018.
The Mac's sales contraction, on the other hand, ran
for only four quarters. The March quarter was the
second consecutive on the plus side of the growth
ledger.
Microsoft, whose Windows operating system powers
most non-Mac personal computers, will report its
March quarter earnings Thursday after the market
closes. Microsoft's numbers, and the commentary by
its executives, including new CEO Satya Nadella,
should provide additional insight on the health of
the overall PC business.
The Mac's ASP has remained remarkably stable over
the last 6+ years, a tribute to Apple's focus on
the high-end of the PC market.
<http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-defies-pc-downturn-again-boo
sts-mac-sales-3513292/>
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Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 18:33 -0400
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