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Re: Mac sales in mild decline

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Mac sales in mild decline
Date 2014-04-25 15:05 +1200
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In article <53583fca$0$1283$c3e8da3$50776f34@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-04-23 18:20, Alan Browne wrote:
> > 
> > With today's earnings report, the Mac line looks to be in a mild decline 
> > that has gone on now for the past 2 years.  While there are quarterly 
> > peaks and valleys, looking at the data with a 4 quarter average shows a 
> > continuous decline v. the 2010-2012 period.
> 
> What people (and the Wall Street Casino Analysts) forget is that
> computers have essentially stopped evolving from the point of view of
> what you can do with them.

It doesn't say above where Alan Browne got that know-nothing garbage
report from (probably the usual "Apple is doomed" moronic blogger
"journalists"), but this is pretty much the complete opposite from
MacWorld UK ...

    Apple defies PC downturn again, boosts Mac sales
    ------------------------------------------------
    Apple on Wednesday said it sold 4.1 million Macs in the
    March quarter, growing sales during a period when the
    personal computer industry overall continued to contract.

    The Cupertino, Calif. company sold 5% more Macs in the
    quarter than the same stretch the year before, with
    revenue from its oldest line accounting for 12% of the
    company's total sales of $45.6 billion.

    "Macs continue to be very consistent, with a very 
    consistent market," said Carolina Milanesi, chief of
    research at Kantar Worldpanel ComTech, in an interview
    after Apple's earnings call concluded.

    The consistency Milanesi spoke of was Apple's ability 
    to regularly beat the industry average for personal 
    computer sales growth. In the March quarter, global
    shipments of PCs decreased by 4%, according to
    researcher IDC. Rival Gartner pegged the contraction 
    at about 2%.

    "It's a good business for them," said Van Baker, an
    analyst with Gartner. "But remember, Apple chooses to
    compete only at the high end of the market, so it's 
    kind of self-regulating."

    By that he meant that the Mac, unlike the bulk of 
    personal computers, is not as susceptible to the whims
    of price wars, or the waning and waxing of economies.
    And because it was not really forced to compete on 
    price, Apple did not have to pare margins to the bone
    to sell systems, as have most other OEMs (original 
    equipment manufacturers).

    "Plus, the Mac helps them sell other products and 
    sustains their image in the market because they can 
    put the latest technology in their machines," Baker
    added.

    The ASP, or average selling price, of the Mac line
    actually increased 2% quarter-over-quarter, climbing
    from $1,322 to $1,344. Even so, the March 2014
    quarter's ASP was down nearly 3% year-over-year.

    When graphed over a long period -- from 2008 on -- the
    Mac's ASP looks quite stable, showing that Apple has 
    been able both to sustain modest growth while not
    retreating from its premium brand philosophy.

    The 4.1 million Macs sold last quarter were a March
    quarter record for the company. If Gartner and IDC 
    were accurate in their estimates of personal 
    computers shipped worldwide, Macs accounted for 
    between 5.3% and 5.6% of the total.

    The two research firms have predicted that the 
    long-term contraction of the PC industry -- eight 
    quarters, or two years, so far -- will continue into
    the foreseeable future. For instance, IDC forecast 
    last month that total shipments will shrink by 6% 
    this year, and volumes will remain under the 
    300-million mark through 2018.

    The Mac's sales contraction, on the other hand, ran 
    for only four quarters. The March quarter was the 
    second consecutive on the plus side of the growth 
    ledger.

    Microsoft, whose Windows operating system powers 
    most non-Mac personal computers, will report its 
    March quarter earnings Thursday after the market 
    closes. Microsoft's numbers, and the commentary by 
    its executives, including new CEO Satya Nadella, 
    should provide additional insight on the health of 
    the overall PC business.

    The Mac's ASP  has remained remarkably stable over
    the last 6+ years, a tribute to Apple's focus on 
    the high-end of the PC market.
   
<http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-defies-pc-downturn-again-boo
sts-mac-sales-3513292/>

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Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 18:20 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 18:33 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 19:27 -0400
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-24 01:01 +0000
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 21:57 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 16:30 +1200
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 00:05 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 15:54 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-27 21:27 +0000
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 19:20 -0400
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      Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 12:39 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-04-27 11:15 +1200
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          Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-26 19:20 -0400
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 20:35 -0400
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                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 10:54 -0400
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-28 09:03 +1200
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-04-28 11:29 +0100
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-29 09:14 +1200
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    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-25 15:05 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-25 00:28 -0400
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-25 18:11 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 16:00 -0400
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        Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-26 09:59 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-23 16:33 -0700
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-23 20:00 -0400
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-04-23 21:25 -0700
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-24 18:25 +1200
      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 12:15 -0700
        Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 18:04 -0400
          Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 15:09 -0700
            Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-24 18:32 -0400
              Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 17:33 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-24 21:01 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-04-24 21:31 -0700
                Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-04-24 21:48 -0700
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            Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-25 16:07 -0400
  Re: Mac sales in mild decline Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-24 00:59 +0000
    Re: Mac sales in mild decline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 23:05 -0400
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  Re: Mac sales in mild decline JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-23 22:03 -0400
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      Re: Mac sales in mild decline Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-27 20:41 -0400
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