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Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone

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On 2014-02-07, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 07/02/14 06:52, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> On Thursday 06 February 2014 12:24, Harold Stevens conveyed the 
>>> following to comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>>
>>>> In <slrnlf6fjh.rld.whynot@orphan.zombinet> Eric Pozharski:
>>>>
>>>> [Snip...]
>>>>
>>>>> "windopws drivers" spit somet special magic into phone, and phone
>>>>> obeys
>>>>
>>>> IMO, this is likely FAT patent/licence skirmishing among Android
>>>> phones facing the Borg's rapacious tollroad business model based on an
>>>> archaic file system.
>>>
>>> That depends on the Android version.  As of Android 2.3 onward, Android 
>>> uses ext4 as its filesystem, and I think the new 4.x generation uses 
>>> Samsung's special Flash-oriented filesystem - I forgot its name.  
>>> Earlier versions of Android used FAT.
>> 
>> That was my first guess, but according to
>> http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-A341
>> the A341 isn't an Android phone.  That page lists its OS as "LG OS (WISE)"
>> (whatever that is).
>> 
>> The problem with recent Android versions isn't the change in filesystem,
>> it's that Android no longer supports USB mass storage mode.  You now
>> have to use MTP (media transfer protocol).  I don't know why they did
>> this...
>> 
>
> There were very good reasons for changing to MTP.  When using
> block-oriented protocols (USB mass storage), then the filesystem can
> only be mounted on one device at a time - if the computer has access to

    Not a problem really. 

> it, then android device cannot access it.  Using MTP is more akin to
> exporting the filesystem with NFS or SAMBA - the device /and/ the

    ...except not nearly robust. This is even true on Windows.

> computer can use the filesystem at the same time.  An additional
> advantage is that the connected computer does not need to support the
> filesystem type - thus they can use Samsung's FFS, or ext4, or whatever,
> along with Linux, Windows and Mac hosts.

     Not that much of an advantage compared to the simplicity and thus
robustness of just mounting the mobile device in the simplest way 
possible. Even under Windows you end up with weird behavior because MTP 
doesn't behave like a real filesystem.

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Can't mount LG A341 phone "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-02-05 13:26 -0800
  Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-06 00:40 -0500
  Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2014-02-06 06:52 +0000
    Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-02-06 08:11 -0800
  Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2014-02-06 09:49 +0200
    Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Harold Stevens <wookie@limbo.localdomain> - 2014-02-06 05:24 -0600
      Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-02-07 01:34 +0100
        Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-02-06 22:52 -0700
          Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2014-02-07 09:16 +0100
            Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-02-07 09:50 -0600
  Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2014-02-07 04:29 +1100
    Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2014-02-07 10:03 +0200
  Re: Can't mount LG A341 phone buck <buck@private.mil> - 2014-02-06 17:55 +0000

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