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Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization

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In message <ryd2l1mu05.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

>> In message <7tioutn8l1.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
>>   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
>> 
>> >> In message <f7ob4nlzo7.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
>> >>   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> >> In article <o5y53rib5u.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
>> >> >>  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > > In message <1bhaagmghd.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
>> >> >> > >   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > > (snip)
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > >> So now the Mavericks users are stuck using a 3rd-party solution to sync 
>> >> >> > > >> everything to their machines directly?  I think this is what the OP 
>> >> >> > > >> wants but can't have.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > > Third party to what?  
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > > I see two parties here.  One is me, and the other is either iCloud or
>> >> >> > > > Google.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > >> I don't use iCloud for contacts and calendar and just use Google's 
>> >> >> > > >> stuff. It works on my phone, Linux box, and Mac.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > > Yes, Google is fine.  iCloud is too, but only if you are all Mac OS's.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > Not true, iCloud works fine in a mixed environment. I know plenty of
>> >> >> > > people who us it to sync their macs and ios devices, but also sync to
>> >> >> > > google as well. Works just fine.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Can you expand on what you mean by using iCloud in a mixed
>> >> >> > environment?  I haven't had that experience, but I haven't tried
>> >> >> > either. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I haven't been able to connect my Linux box to iCloud. AFAIK, it only 
>> >> >> works on MacOS clients.  Meanwhile, Google Drive and Dropbox have Linux 
>> >> >> clients that "just work".  And I can sync my Google bookmarks, calendar, 
>> >> >> and contacts with Linux.
>> >> 
>> >> > That is as I would expect, which still leaves me wondering what Lewis
>> >> > meant when he wrote iCloud works fine in a mixed environment.
>> >> 
>> >> Mixed between iCloud and Google. And if you can sync to Google, you
>> >> should be able to sync to most things.
>> 
>> > That's confusing since you contradicted my statement that iCloud is
>> > only fine if you are only using Apple operating systems.  Oh - I look
>> > back and I see I wrote "Mac OS's" where I meant Apple OS's.  Maybe
>> > that is the confusion.
>> 
>> Google is not an Apple operating system.
>> 
>> > I agree that you can use both iCloud and Google (I do the same thing).
>> > But the only reason I can use iCloud at all is that the devices that
>> > use it are all runing iOS or some (relatively recent) version of OSX.
>> 
>> You said iCloud was only fine if you were "all Mac OSes", but iCloud
>> syncs just fine to the non-Apple/non-Mac Google.

> Can you explain what you mean by that?  

> I think iCloud syncs to (for example) my contacts.  And I can also
> sync my contacts to Google.  Is that what you mean?

> Or are you talking about Google's Chrome OS, or some direct way to
> sync iCloud to Google?

Yes, iCloud syncs to Google.

> I'm not trying to be argumentative,  I'm just trying to understand
> what you mean by "iCloud syncs to Google."  

If you have a Google account in Contacts (OS X), for example, there will be a
check-box in the setting to sync the iCloud contacts to the Google
account. This is how my mother keeps her iCloud contacts synced with
Google.

-- 
Generalizations are always inaccurate.

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  Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 08:32 -0800
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization billy@MIX.COM - 2013-12-10 17:09 +0000
  Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 10:26 +1300
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-10 16:51 -0500
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-10 14:33 -0800
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 15:30 -0800
        Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-11 05:14 +0000
          Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 08:51 -0800
            Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-11 13:35 -0800
              Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:45 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-12 06:29 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 12:00 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-13 00:12 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 17:15 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-13 01:43 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 21:40 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-12 22:09 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-13 19:57 +1300
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-13 08:19 +0100
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Conor Hughes <conorh@conorh.net> - 2013-12-13 11:51 -0800
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 12:54 +1300
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-10 23:32 +0000
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 13:11 +1300

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