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Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization

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Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

> In message <7tioutn8l1.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
>   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
> 
> >> In message <f7ob4nlzo7.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
> >>   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:
> >> 
> >> >> In article <o5y53rib5u.fsf@ethel.the.log>,
> >> >>  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > In message <1bhaagmghd.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
> >> >> > >   Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> writes:
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > (snip)
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> So now the Mavericks users are stuck using a 3rd-party solution to sync 
> >> >> > > >> everything to their machines directly?  I think this is what the OP 
> >> >> > > >> wants but can't have.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > Third party to what?  
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > I see two parties here.  One is me, and the other is either iCloud or
> >> >> > > > Google.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> I don't use iCloud for contacts and calendar and just use Google's 
> >> >> > > >> stuff. It works on my phone, Linux box, and Mac.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > Yes, Google is fine.  iCloud is too, but only if you are all Mac OS's.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Not true, iCloud works fine in a mixed environment. I know plenty of
> >> >> > > people who us it to sync their macs and ios devices, but also sync to
> >> >> > > google as well. Works just fine.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Can you expand on what you mean by using iCloud in a mixed
> >> >> > environment?  I haven't had that experience, but I haven't tried
> >> >> > either. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I haven't been able to connect my Linux box to iCloud. AFAIK, it only 
> >> >> works on MacOS clients.  Meanwhile, Google Drive and Dropbox have Linux 
> >> >> clients that "just work".  And I can sync my Google bookmarks, calendar, 
> >> >> and contacts with Linux.
> >> 
> >> > That is as I would expect, which still leaves me wondering what Lewis
> >> > meant when he wrote iCloud works fine in a mixed environment.
> >> 
> >> Mixed between iCloud and Google. And if you can sync to Google, you
> >> should be able to sync to most things.
> 
> > That's confusing since you contradicted my statement that iCloud is
> > only fine if you are only using Apple operating systems.  Oh - I look
> > back and I see I wrote "Mac OS's" where I meant Apple OS's.  Maybe
> > that is the confusion.
> 
> Google is not an Apple operating system.
> 
> > I agree that you can use both iCloud and Google (I do the same thing).
> > But the only reason I can use iCloud at all is that the devices that
> > use it are all runing iOS or some (relatively recent) version of OSX.
> 
> You said iCloud was only fine if you were "all Mac OSes", but iCloud
> syncs just fine to the non-Apple/non-Mac Google.

Can you explain what you mean by that?  

I think iCloud syncs to (for example) my contacts.  And I can also
sync my contacts to Google.  Is that what you mean?

Or are you talking about Google's Chrome OS, or some direct way to
sync iCloud to Google?

I'm not trying to be argumentative,  I'm just trying to understand
what you mean by "iCloud syncs to Google."  

It still seems like not a mixed environment.  iCloud is for Apple
devices.  Possibly there is some way to get iCloud to also sync with
contact and calendar on Gmail?  Possibly one can then get Gmail to
sync with non-Apple devices?

I still would not call that using iCloud in a mixed environment.  But
again, I remain unsure about what you mean.

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  Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 08:32 -0800
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization billy@MIX.COM - 2013-12-10 17:09 +0000
  Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 10:26 +1300
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-10 16:51 -0500
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-10 14:33 -0800
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-10 15:30 -0800
        Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-11 05:14 +0000
          Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 08:51 -0800
            Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-11 13:35 -0800
              Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-11 15:45 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-12 06:29 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 12:00 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-13 00:12 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 17:15 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-13 01:43 +0000
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-12-12 21:40 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-12 22:09 -0800
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-13 19:57 +1300
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization android <here@there.was> - 2013-12-13 08:19 +0100
                Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Conor Hughes <conorh@conorh.net> - 2013-12-13 11:51 -0800
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 12:54 +1300
    Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-10 23:32 +0000
      Re: Using OSX Mavericks Server as personal iCloud for device synchronization dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-12-11 13:11 +1300

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