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Re: Who Knew ?

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Who Knew ?
Date 2021-10-30 08:21 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 29/10/2021 21:08, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 10/29/21 09:52, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2021-10-29, 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
>>
>>>     Fortunately, it doesn't look like time travel can
>>>     be realized in the real world.
>>
>> Too bad.  I'd love go to back and see to it that
>> Bill Gates' parents never met.
> 
> 
> 
>      Without MS-DOS and Windows we might not have
> the x86 line with all its advances and multiple cores
> to play with as well as all its sneaky Minux
> implementation.
> 
>      Time Travel by any means in the 21st century is
> merely entertainment but by the 30th century it may be
> dangerous reality.  I am not going to worry about it but
> The Gordian Protocol was too good a story to miss.
> 
You can't solve the inherent paradox.

Ability to change the past would always result in  a paradox. There are 
no paradoxes in nature. Only in the imperfect human mind.

It wasn't about time travel, but it was about personality travel - 
Mindswap, by Robert Sheckley, in which the hapless protagonist keeps 
swapping bodies in an vain attempt to get back to the one he started 
with - ends thus....

"He changed his mind, however, realizing that there was no sense in 
spending his life trying to discover if he had  a life to spend.

"Besides, there was a possibility that even if the Earth were changed, 
his memory and perceptions might also be changed, rendering discovery 
impossible.

"He lay beneath Stanhope's familiar green sky, and considered the 
possibility. It seemed unlikely: for did not the giant oak trees still 
migrate each year to the south?  Did not the huge red sun move across 
the sky pursued by its dark companion? Did not the triple moons return 
each month with their new accumulation of comets?

"These familiar sights reassured him. Everything seemed to be as it 
always had been. And so , willingly and with a good grace, Marvin 
accepted his world at face value, married Marsha Baker, and lived 
forever after."

In short, if time travel existed, we would travel in time, change the 
past, and instantly be in a present descended from the changed past with 
no knowledge of ever having changed it.

In fact I do this a thousand times a second :-)


-- 
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social 
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the 
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

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Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-21 00:06 -0400
  Re: Who Knew ? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-10-21 08:27 +0100
    Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-21 08:04 -0700
      Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-28 02:08 -0400
        Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-28 09:41 +0100
          Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-29 16:39 +0000
            Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 07:39 +0100
      Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-29 01:14 -0400
        Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-29 16:52 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-29 13:08 -0700
            Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-29 22:43 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-30 04:32 -0400
            Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 08:21 +0100
              Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-01 18:50 +0000
            Re: Who Knew ? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-10-30 13:45 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-30 14:54 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-10-30 21:47 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 23:14 +0100
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-31 01:25 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2021-10-31 04:12 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-31 00:57 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-31 13:35 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-31 15:47 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-01 04:44 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 00:13 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-01 22:05 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 01:26 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-03 07:02 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-05 00:54 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 00:11 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-02 06:17 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 00:27 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-02 21:46 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 07:26 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 19:58 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 21:34 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:05 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 20:13 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:40 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 14:09 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:53 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-05 09:26 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 21:02 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-04 00:01 -0500
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:09 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:49 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 05:01 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:48 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:46 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:26 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-04 23:51 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:37 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:54 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-05 13:49 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:08 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-31 01:52 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2021-10-31 10:26 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-31 22:52 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-01 18:50 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 08:00 +0100
            Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-01 18:50 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2021-11-05 17:58 +1100
            Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
    Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-28 01:11 -0400
      Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-28 09:39 +0100
      Re: Who Knew ? Pancho <Pancho.Dontmaileme@outlook.com> - 2021-10-28 14:25 +0100
        Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-28 14:49 +0100
        Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-29 01:07 -0400
          Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-29 08:13 -0700
            Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-31 00:28 -0400
              Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-31 13:24 +0000
      Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-28 08:15 -0700
        Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-29 01:36 -0400
          Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-29 09:59 +0100
            Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-29 16:52 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-30 01:49 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 07:59 +0100
              Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-30 07:53 +0100
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-01 18:50 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 01:04 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 08:34 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-02 19:09 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 23:58 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-02 21:39 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-03 08:36 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 11:23 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-03 08:31 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-11-06 19:07 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-07 12:15 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-11-07 13:55 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-11-07 07:59 -0800
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                Re: Smallpox vaccine date(s) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-11 21:19 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-02 08:31 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2021-10-31 00:18 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-31 00:06 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-31 07:55 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-10-31 22:46 -0400

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