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Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement.

From Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups sci.crypt
Subject Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement.
Date 2021-10-27 17:25 +0100
Organization Fix this later
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On 27/10/2021 16:10, austin obyrne wrote:
> On Monday, 25 October 2021 at 21:09:42 UTC+1, Rich wrote:
>> Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2021 8:38 AM, austin obyrne wrote:
>>>> The encryption/ decryption model to go with this text may be seen at
>>>> https://www.aslec.uk.
>>>>
>>>> In the model let?say (postulated here for discussion purposes only)
>>>> that Eve has overcome the insurmountable problem of finding the
>>>> correct displacement of the plaintext in hand as the position vector
>>>> of a point in R^3 relative to the universal zero at (0, 0, 0).
>>>>
>>>> She still has lots more miracle hurdles to overcome and it is this
>>>> that I want to discuss here.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> What about being able to break a ciphertext without even worrying
>>> about trying to get at the secret key? Sure, getting at the secret
>>> key would be nice, but who cares if one can bust a ciphertext, right?
>> Given that Austin's "displacement" is likely fixed per character, his
>> cipher likely devolves into a "Caesar cipher" (substitute one letter
>> for another, always the same substitution every time the same letter
>> appears).
>>
>> If so, then frequency analysis will allow one to pick it apart without
>> ever knowing the key.
> 
>> Given that Austin's "displacement" is likely fixed per character, his
>> cipher likely devolves into a "Caesar cipher" (substitute one letter
>> for another, always the same substitution every time the same letter
>> appears).
> 
>> If so, then frequency analysis will allow one to pick it apart without
>>> ever knowing the key.
> 
> I do not believe that anybody in this group iis  naive enough to think that !

We have already demonstrated how to do this, right here in sci.crypt. If 
you think it cannot be done, it is you who are naïf.

> Maybe you would like a lengthy test sample of his work so that you could
> demonstarte your cryptanalyic skills????

The weakness of your cryptography lies in key re-use, inevitable because 
the key is so vast and so difficult to change (requiring as it does the 
editing and recompiling of source code), and your cipher is 
insufficiently robust to withstand the cryptanalysis of multiple 
messages encrypted with the same key).

And I doubt whether anyone here would trust you to produce multiple 
ciphertext messages all encrypted with the same key.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-10-25 08:38 -0700
  Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-25 17:10 +0100
  Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-10-25 11:06 -0700
  Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-25 12:51 -0700
    Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-25 20:09 +0000
      Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-10-26 00:51 -0700
        Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-26 09:22 +0100
      Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-10-27 08:10 -0700
        Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-27 17:25 +0100
        Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 01:08 -0700
          Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-28 09:19 +0100
            Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 02:51 -0700
              Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-28 13:29 +0000
              Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-28 15:10 +0100
                Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 09:22 -0700
      Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 14:23 -0700
        Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-10-28 14:47 -0700
        Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-29 00:56 +0100
          Re: ASLEC Cipher ? The Entanglement. daleJ <daletejas@gmail.com> - 2021-10-29 17:22 -0700
    Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> - 2021-10-25 22:24 +0200
      Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-26 21:52 -0700
        Re: ASLEC Cipher – The Entanglement. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-26 21:53 -0700

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