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| From | Bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: How to get mantissa of long double? |
| Date | 2021-10-04 14:06 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <sjeu95$ogj$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 04/10/2021 08:52, David Brown wrote:
> On 03/10/2021 12:19, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> Am 03.10.2021 um 12:15 schrieb Bart:
>>
>>> Jesus. And I think this still doesn't do an actual long double!
>>
>> long double isn't supported by many compilers for x86-64.
>> long double should be avoided when possible because loads
>> and stores are slow with long double.
>>
>
> "long double" is supported by any C++ or C compiler, for any target,
> that tries to come close to any current standards compliance.
>
> What you probably mean is that on some targets, "long double" is the
> same size as "double". That's true for most 32-bit (and smaller)
> targets. Most 64-bit targets support larger "long double".
Any code running on x86 can choose to use x87 instructions for floating
point.
Then, even calculations involving 64-bit variables, will use 80-bit
intermediate results.
> As happens so often, there is /one/ major exception to the common
> practices used by (AFAICS) every other OS, every other processor, every
> other compiler manufacturer - on Windows, and with MSVC, "long double"
> is 64-bit.
Here's quick survey of Windows C compilers:
Compiler sizeof(long double)
MSCV 8 bytes
gcc 16
clang 8
DMC 10
lccwin 16
tcc 8
bcc 8
So, some compilers do manage to use a wider long double type, even on
Windows, showing that the choice is nothing do with the OS.
And at least one 'big' compiler that is not MSVC also uses a 64-bit type
for long double.
You just like having a bash at Windows (it doesn't stop the use of
float80), and at MSVC (Clang doesn't support float80 either).
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