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Re: Linux on a Chromebook

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On 27/08/2021 02:38, SixOverFive wrote:
> On 08/26/2021 12:21 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 10:02:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>> On 26/08/2021 05:12, SixOverFive wrote:
>>>> Strong rumors that Win-11 replaces a lot of the
>>>>     behind-the-scenes code with de-facto Linux, Win-12
>>>>     will be almost entirely Linux tweaked into a
>>>>     look-alike/work-alike that fools people into thinking
>>>>     it is still the old Winders line. MS just can't keep
>>>>     up with 30+ years of "legacy" and and HAS to switch
>>>>     to a more organized paradigm.
>>>>
>>> MS will have worked out where its income lies, as IBM did when it
>>> realised the money wasn't necessarily in hardware or operating
>>> systems.
>>
>> Everybody seems doing cloud today. Thus I didn't expect there would be a
>> Windows 11. I assumed they would create some dumb client after Windows 10
>> to connect to their cloud instead. Similar to what Google did with Chrome
>> OS, depending much or less on their cloud (pretty much useless without
>> internet connection).
> 
>    Have no doubts, MS badly *wants* a return to the
>    client/server + license fees paradigm. Every release
>    edges further and further in that direction.
> 
>    Oh yea, since your "machine" and data really reside
>    on MS servers it makes it a hell of a lot easier to
>    monitor/mine/sell your stuff ....
> 
>    With MS (and G), assume evil intent until proven otherwise.
> 
> 
>> Btw. I might need a new laptop after 9 years hacking on this one in front
>> of me and thought about a Chromebook, because they are cheap (no Windows
>> OEM license?). But don't want to give up on Linux. There are a lot of
>> Howtos in the internet, and some reporting of messing all up. Anyone
>> successfully installed Linux - preferably next to Chrome OS - on a
>> Chromebook here?
> 
>     Some you CAN flush and install Linux, some you can't. I think
>     manufacturers have some deal with G and/or MS to intentionally
>     try and stick people with proprietary OSs. There are a few
>     outfits that sell notebooks pre-installed with Linux, but they
>     are expensive (good high-powered units though).
> 
My take on this was that a second hand two year old quality ex business 
laptop would not only run linux 'out of the box', but was better specced 
for the same price as a new chromebook

Uk prices for a new chromebook with 4GB ram and nasty essd start around 
£200

I can get a refurbed Lenovo for that and for a little more an HP laptop. 
Core i3 technology and 8GB RAM. Scrub out windows and overwrite the drive.


>     This missive is being writ on a N300-based Dell P24-something,
>     compact, cheap, absolutely not for modern games or video
>     work. Flushed Winders and managed to get MX in there. Winders
>     actually used up about 70% of the 32gb SSD ... MX only about
>     15 percent  :-)

Yup. Its hard to get an SSD smaller than 120GB these days! I think a raw 
linux Mint install is only about 8GB -  its hard to go over 20GB even 
loaded up with apps. Data is another matter of course

I looked very hard at chromebooks, but they were all either built down 
to a price, or more expensive than a laptop anyway.

You can get the same hardware as a chromebook running windows for very 
little extra anyway, but why would you?

Want ability to program SD cards? buy a USB addition



-- 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the 
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

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