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Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode")

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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 08:54:50PM +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> >>> I'd rather keep it as simple as possible
> >>
> >> you can still use sysvinit as init
> 
> I read that trying to use sysvinit causes trouble and several things
> depend on systemd at the moment.
> 
> > The shell scripts used by sysvinit are not simpler. More familiar maybe,
> > but not simpler.
> 
> Simplicity can very roughly approximated by source code size.
> Do you think the systemd implementation of the fsck wrapper
> is simpler that "fsck -A"?
> 
> I hope GNU/Linux forks off as soon as systemd integrates an own
> kernel (systemk) and its reimplementation of Wayland (systemx)
> in one binary image blob, which for technical reasons will
> temporarily be called \EFI\BOOT\BOOTx64.EFI, but only until
> UEFI BIOS functionalities are fully integrated. Then you can POST
> and fsck in parallel, write units that depend on POST (so X won't
> start before POST passed! Imagine that!!) to form a clean, simple
> and modern-to-the-max system.

C'm on. Calm on. Feeding the flames doesn't help anyone.

> SCNR :-)

Please, resist. Good, clean arguments. Respect other views. If
we manage that on both sides life may be nice.

regards
- -- tomás
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systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but  "maintenance mode") Steffen Dettmer <steffen.dettmer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 15:20 +0100
  Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Steffen Dettmer <steffen.dettmer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 16:20 +0100
    Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-01-09 02:10 +0100
      Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Steffen Dettmer <steffen.dettmer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 23:10 +0100
        Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 01:10 +0100
          Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> - 2017-01-10 01:20 +0100
            Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 09:40 +0100
              Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-01-10 10:00 +0100
                Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-01-10 15:20 +0100
                Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 18:50 +0100
                Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2017-01-10 22:20 +0100
            Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Steffen Dettmer <steffen.dettmer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 21:20 +0100
              Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-01-10 21:50 +0100
              Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-01-10 21:50 +0100
              Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-01-10 22:10 +0100
                Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2017-01-10 22:50 +0100
                Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 01:40 +0100
        Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-01-10 11:50 +0100
        Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error but "maintenance mode") Dominique Dumont <dod@debian.org> - 2017-01-10 13:10 +0100
          Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-01-10 18:00 +0100
          Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? (was: Systemd: no error  but "maintenance mode") Steffen Dettmer <steffen.dettmer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 21:20 +0100
  Re: systemd requires "plymouth" on server? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 09:20 +0100

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