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On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500
Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

>On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:  
>> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
>> >
>> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite
>> > install.
>> >
>> > That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a fact
>> > that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
>> >
>> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel
>> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater
>> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time
>> > I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not
>> > force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as root,
>> > overwrite the overlay stuff.
>> >
>> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
>> >
>> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me
>> > a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow
>> >  me to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd around, run
>> > nano, or even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc.
>> >
>> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has
>> > totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency
>> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of
>> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking
>> > at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied. I
>> > want to install  it, but not as it shows in the view.
>> >
>> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a
>> > bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500
>> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff.
>> >
>> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the
>> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in
>> > polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged in
>> > user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open
>> > display 10:.
>> >
>> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable
>> > desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do
>> > NOT need on a limited resource machine.
>> >
>> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen
>> > other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
>> >
>> > Many Thanks for any help.  
>>
>> Package: task-lxde-desktop
>> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
>> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
>> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
>> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca
>>
>> so how about:   # aptitude -R
>>  
>That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous experience 
>with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every time, I don't do 
>anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea of package management 
>the last time I wanted something like htop installed, was to rip out 278 
>other vital packages, so I had to locate the install dvd and start all 
>over.  By the time I actually had it running the machine again, was 
>about 3 days work. Burn me once was educational, twice was because I 
>must learn slow.  Its not going to do anything again without knowing 
>exactly what that next keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do.
>
>I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is 
>installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10:
>If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter it, 
>and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in user.
>
>The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability to 
>run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs camp. 
>I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998. After 18 
>years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude has 
>demonstrated that twice already.
>
>So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what that 
>commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do.
>
>> Cheers,
>> David.  
>
>
>Cheers David, Gene Heskett


To run synaptic:
go to root as user pi - su 
run synaptic - synaptic

It does not need pkexec to make it run from root.

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Charlie Kravetz
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  Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-12-26 05:20 +0100
    Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-12-26 06:00 +0100
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