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Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe

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On Monday 26 December 2016 00:19:31 Charlie Kravetz wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> >On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote:
> >> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
> >> >
> >> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite
> >> > install.
> >> >
> >> > That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a
> >> > fact that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
> >> >
> >> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel
> >> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater
> >> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the
> >> > time I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I
> >> > could not force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as
> >> > root, overwrite the overlay stuff.
> >> >
> >> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
> >> >
> >> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets
> >> > me a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to
> >> > allow me to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd
> >> > around, run nano, or even run the app I built this to run,
> >> > linuxcnc.
> >> >
> >> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude
> >> > has totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency
> >> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of
> >> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and
> >> > looking at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't
> >> > satisfied. I want to install  it, but not as it shows in the
> >> > view.
> >> >
> >> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install
> >> > a bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500
> >> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff.
> >> >
> >> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the
> >> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something
> >> > in polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged
> >> > in user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't
> >> > open display 10:.
> >> >
> >> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a
> >> > useable desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of
> >> > libreoffice I do NOT need on a limited resource machine.
> >> >
> >> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a
> >> > dozen other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
> >> >
> >> > Many Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Package: task-lxde-desktop
> >> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
> >> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
> >> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
> >> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca
> >>
> >> so how about:   # aptitude -R
> >
> >That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous
> > experience with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every
> > time, I don't do anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea
> > of package management the last time I wanted something like htop
> > installed, was to rip out 278 other vital packages, so I had to
> > locate the install dvd and start all over.  By the time I actually
> > had it running the machine again, was about 3 days work. Burn me
> > once was educational, twice was because I must learn slow.  Its not
> > going to do anything again without knowing exactly what that next
> > keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do.
> >
> >I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is
> >installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10:
> >If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter
> > it, and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in
> > user.
> >
> >The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability
> > to run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs
> > camp. I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998.
> > After 18 years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude
> > has demonstrated that twice already.
> >
> >So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what
> > that commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do.
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> David.
> >
> >Cheers David, Gene Heskett
>
> To run synaptic:
> go to root as user pi - su
> run synaptic - synaptic
>
> It does not need pkexec to make it run from root.
screen scrape:
pi@raspberrypi:~/linuxcnc/configs/lathe $ su
Password: 
root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/linuxcnc/configs/lathe# synaptic
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.

** (synaptic:2792): WARNING **: Could not open X display
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused

(synaptic:2792): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0

Next?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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  Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-12-26 05:20 +0100
    Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-12-26 06:00 +0100
      Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-12-26 06:50 +0100
        Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-12-26 07:20 +0100
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